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Re: Do we really need each other?

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#535600 - 01/30/02 02:34 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Empty, Enlightenment is not an expierience but a realization that you are experiencing. Once you drop the lables from everything and look at things the way they are, you will realize your experience

You know, all the posts here are of people experiencing the same thing.
When I come out of my "shell" the Ego and observe people I see that they dont know if everyone else is like them or if they are not like everyone else.
Where do we get this sense of not belonging in this enviroment?
Maybe its that we never consciously chose to be conscious

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Re: Do we really need each other?

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#536638 - 01/31/02 05:13 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

=) Yes I can see that and conceptualize that, and that's just the problem. I'm starting to do zazen in the pursuit of enlightenment because my delusionment is eating me away. Beliefs, opinons, labels, they all just make up a wall blocking me from seeing what's already there. Wish me luck.

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#537039 - 01/31/02 04:16 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Good luck to you my friend.

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Re: Do we really need each other?

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#539559 - 02/03/02 07:07 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I'm bad with words, can't spit it out exactly how and why I connect certain parts of this thread with this book. oh well here it is:

"The new-born child does not realize that his body is more a part of himself than surrounding objects, and will play with his toes without any feeling that they belong to him more than the rattle by his side; and it is only by degrees, through pain, that he understands the fact of the body. And experiences of the same kind are necessary for the individual to become conscious of himself; but here there is the difference that, although everyone becomes equally concious of his body as a seperate and complete organism, everyone does not become equally consious of himself as a complete and seperate personality. The feeling of apartness from others comes to most with puberty, but it is not always developped to such a degree as to make the difference between the individual and his fellows noticeable to the individual. It is such as he, as little concsious of himself as the bee in a hive, who are the lucky in life, for they have the best chance of happiness..."
(W. Somerset Maugham, Of Human Bondage p.45)

It's kind of interesting to me to try and fit this sort of dichotomy in w/ talk about feelings of divine oneness and the idea that all people have the potential to "get it"
Maybe he left out the third part of a trichotomy or something..... maybe he's just taking some water and splitting it between a couple of paper cups and creating his own dichotomy but I llike the book a lot hehe..... I like this word dichotomy to it's great.

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