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The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide
    #5250072 - 02/01/06 04:06 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

Is a good way to get your damn fool self killed in a violent explosion. Just don't do it.

Just because the anarachist's cookbook says you can do it using hair bleach and acetone does not mean that you can safely do it using hair bleach and acetone!

Attempted syntheses of acetone peroxide have killed a lot of people who sought to make a potent explosive via clandestine chemistry.

There was no point in making this thread, but writing it was entertaining.


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: Konnrade]
    #5250076 - 02/01/06 04:09 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

I live by the Anarchists Cookbook, also check out The Terrorists Handbook :thumbup:


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: RESTLESS]
    #5250080 - 02/01/06 04:12 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

Back during the one year in high school where I lived for learning new ways to commit vandalism, I was almost caught reading the anarchist's cookbook in a summer school session of a world geography class.

I imagine I would have been suspended or expelled for having brought it to school.


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: Konnrade]
    #5250125 - 02/01/06 05:07 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

I almost got into some trouble in high school for distributing the wonderful cookbook to a few close friends. One of my buddies had the bright idea of printing out the entire thing in the library with the assistant pricipal sitting right next to the machine. I told the principal and her assistants that we were using the cookbook to get ideas for the school science fair...AND THEY FUCKIN BOUGHT IT! It didn't escalate as I thought it would and we continued our mischivious ways...lol


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: Konnrade]
    #5250348 - 02/01/06 08:41 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

I've done quit a lot of syntheses to make Acetone Peroxide but I always used 99% Acetone and 30% Hydrogen Peroxide. The hair bleach contains 3% so it's far less. + You'd have to cool down the syntheses down to -3 (or less if you can) to make the good kind of Acetone Peroxide (forgot the name I guess it was the tri-form) and the tri-form is much more stable then the di-form (the one that will be synthesyses when you don't cool it down)


But still I admit it's pretty fucked up and I used to synthese Silver Acetylide Because it's pretty stable and you don't need a lot of it as a detonator.


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: Konnrade]
    #5250353 - 02/01/06 08:42 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

There's always been (since it first came out) a rumor going around that the Anarchists Cookbook was actually written by a CIA agent with the intent to harm people who want to build bombs and such.

At any rate, most of the information is horribly wrong and dangerous to attempt.


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: Konnrade]
    #5250469 - 02/01/06 09:40 AM (18 years, 18 days ago)

I'm listening to the Dave Matthews band right now.

They're actually not very good at all.  :frown:


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: Konnrade]
    #5250840 - 02/01/06 12:13 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

AP isn't a "potent explosive". It's a potent detonator. If you used some HMTD instead, you could prime some ANNM pretty easily and have a really wicked explosion.


Of course, you should never do this.

Also, AP isn't something to be scared of, make it in a small batch, store it properly and you'll be OK. Dow still makes AP detonators, I believe (I know they use HMTD still).


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: RESTLESS]
    #5250845 - 02/01/06 12:14 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

The Big Book of Mischief pnws the Terrorist shandbook.


Jolly Roger is teh 1337!


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: MisterMyco]
    #5251118 - 02/01/06 01:40 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

I used to make AP all the time! I could never get it to explode from friction or shock... I'd put a small dab of crystals on the cement and pound away with a hammer and it would never blow up!

I don't know why the fuck you would use hair bleach though? It would have way more junk in it than if you just used regular old first-aid-kit peroxide. The anarchists cookbook is full of terrible information!

It wasn't until a few years after my first couple synthesis' that I learned about the di- and tri- isomers. Putting the stuff in an ice bath is so easy, and should always be done! especially if you don't want to blow yourself up.

What I always wanted to do, though, was mix it with the double-base smokeless powder disolved in acetone in order to make the explosive bricks... but I no longer live in a rural area and i wouldn't DREAM of detonating explosives in the tampa area!

Some day, perhaps, I'll have a nice plot of land to be able to blow shit up... experiment with ANFO and AP detonators... it's good shit to know for when the revolution comes.


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: dr0mni]
    #5251181 - 02/01/06 01:58 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

I used to make this stuff all the time when i was 15 or so, as well as nitroglycerine, EGDN, RDX, etc when all the chemicals needed were readily available (late 70's early 80's). As long as your careful not to cause alot of friction or put too much pressure on it its not that dangerous. Now nitrogen triiodide on the other hand... thats some sensitive stuff


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: shroomer44]
    #5251505 - 02/01/06 03:15 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

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  Now nitrogen triiodide on the other hand... thats some sensitive stuff




:lol:

I had some fun with touch powder too. :evil:





I bet the lab bench they did this on was pitted and permanently stained bright purple.


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: Konnrade]
    #5251702 - 02/01/06 03:57 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

Yeah, that shit leaves some nasty residue. Pity its so hard to get solid iodine nowadays =(


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: shroomer44]
    #5251975 - 02/01/06 05:05 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

God DAMN! That shit is WICKED!!!


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: dr0mni]
    #5252080 - 02/01/06 05:29 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

Pretty easy to make as well.


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Re: The synthesis of Acetone Peroxide [Re: dr0mni]
    #5252084 - 02/01/06 05:31 PM (18 years, 18 days ago)

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Some day, perhaps, I'll have a nice plot of land to be able to blow shit up... experiment with ANFO and AP detonators... it's good shit to know for when the revolution comes.




Search google for a .pdf called "ANNM", dealing with ammonium nitrate, a metallic dust and nitromethane. Thats some neeeeet-o shit right there. the article uses "cannon fuse" to prime a bit of black powder that detonates the HMTD that, then, detonates a half a kilo of ANNM.


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