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Schwip
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Force a cacti to 'bud'
#5251844 - 02/01/06 04:36 PM (18 years, 13 hours ago) |
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Not sure if that's the correct term or not......
But is there any way to force growth offshoots on your cacti?
I have to thin down my collection and the few im keeping i would like to grow more than just one column......
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Psiloman
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Re: Force a cacti to 'bud' [Re: Schwip]
#5251960 - 02/01/06 05:02 PM (18 years, 13 hours ago) |
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Well,do you know the theory behind how many plants throw out offshoots? Its quite simple really with lots of aplications.
What you are seeing right now,that is no branching ,is a direct effect of the intact apical meristem (the growpoint of your cactus) called "apical dominance".It produces certain auxins like indoloacetic acid,which basivally are the plant's hormones.Branching is stimulated by other hormones and by lack of auxins.
If one wants to stop the apical dominance there are some options.First the very obvious one ,destroy the apical meristem ,the growing point. This of course has the drawback of damaging the cactus.
There is another choice though,topical applocation of cytokinins at the place where spines come from.This was tried by Una in the past utilising a cytokinin named BAP (Bezyl aminopurine , look here http://www.super-grow.biz/BenzylAminopurine.jsp) that was dissolved in lanolin so a paste could be made out of it for easy application.
Try and see what fits you!
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Re: Force a cacti to 'bud' [Re: Psiloman]
#5251992 - 02/01/06 05:08 PM (18 years, 13 hours ago) |
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very informative.....thank you much
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Psiloman
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Re: Force a cacti to 'bud' [Re: Schwip]
#5252060 - 02/01/06 05:24 PM (18 years, 12 hours ago) |
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No problem.
It might require some more research ,i have outlined the "basics" and let me add that i did it quite quickly without focusing on detail.
I just wanted to show that indeed there are methods to do it,quite easy ones!
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hnc


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Re: Force a cacti to 'bud' [Re: Psiloman]
#5252247 - 02/01/06 06:20 PM (18 years, 11 hours ago) |
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Do you know of any commerical products that contain Benzylaminopurine? This sounds like something very useful to have around. Is it restricted to cacti or could this be applied to anything? I know little about cytokinins and find this very interesting.
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Psiloman
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Re: Force a cacti to 'bud' [Re: hnc]
#5252334 - 02/01/06 06:45 PM (18 years, 11 hours ago) |
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Well, plant hormones are "universal" in the plant kingdom.Same things apply for any plant.For example some people make their Salvia divinorum bushier by clipping it,especially the top growing points (no point to clip the leaves).Why? Because whether they know it or not at that time they are stopping the apical dominance by damaging tha auxin producing part. Same thing with pruning trees to make them branch.
I am not aware of any commercial product having BAP,also im not from the states this could even make any brand i would mention (if i knew of one) obsolete.
Why not buy the pure compound off the internet? Just some price hunting and you will propably find the best price for a reasonable amount.
You might be interested in two other of my threads :
1) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4198829
2) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4167592/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
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hnc


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Re: Force a cacti to 'bud' [Re: Psiloman]
#5252507 - 02/01/06 07:41 PM (18 years, 10 hours ago) |
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So if applying BAP topically to a plant can drive areoles to produce pups and nodes to produce new shoots, what happens if applied generally via foliar spray or combined with your normal root fertilizing routine? Would the cacti continue to make its normal amount of auxin or would it decrease production in responce to the new additive? If so, couldn't you simply supplement additional auxin to produce large multi-branched, high alkaloid cacti, or am I a fool for thinking theres a cheap trick to overcome the alkaloid content vs. growth trade off?
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Nashbar
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Re: Force a cacti to 'bud' [Re: hnc]
#5252615 - 02/01/06 08:05 PM (18 years, 10 hours ago) |
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cytokenin, don't know about spelling, supposed to be available at garden stores, maybe that's BAP, I haven't read about that in a long time.
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