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GnuBobo
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Tossed several colonized quarts of wood shavings...
#5233802 - 01/28/06 12:59 AM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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Out into the compost pile. They were all partially contaminated. Species were reishi, black poplar, and dryad's saddle. I'm guessing we have another several weeks of below-freezing weather, though I know mycelium can take freezing temps if it has colonized wood. I was just going to wait until it warms up and see if any fruits show up (many of them were beginning to fruit, but, I have more coming and I didn't want to mix them with the new batch). Anyone done this? And is there anything I should do to help them along? I left them as colonized blocks...didn't break them up as the compost pile is not wood for the most part. Anyway, just wondering if anyone had any experience that might inform me on this one. Thanks.
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Re: Tossed several colonized quarts of wood shavings... [Re: GnuBobo]
#5234215 - 01/28/06 04:03 AM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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I haven't done it, but I would think they may get to hot in compost pile (unless its a cold one) and the mycelium would die and subsequently be fed on by all the lil' microorganisms in the soil. I've heard of using species like shaggy mane in compost piles, but I think that may be sort of a finishing off step.
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GnuBobo
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Re: Tossed several colonized quarts of wood shavings... [Re: jlocke85]
#5234731 - 01/28/06 10:01 AM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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They're sitting on top of the pile, off to one side, not in the middle of the pile. But, yes, compost piles do get quite warm. It shouldn't be until June or so that it starts to really heat up in the center, though.
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Re: Tossed several colonized quarts of wood shavings... [Re: GnuBobo]
#5234940 - 01/28/06 11:22 AM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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Quote:
GnuBobo said: Out into the compost pile. . Anyone done this? And is there anything I should do to help them along? I left them as colonized blocks...didn't break them up as the compost pile is not wood for the most part. Anyway, just wondering if anyone had any experience that might inform me on this one. Thanks.
It may work, but there are alot of factors that may inhibit growth. For example, the block may dry out too much sitting on top of the pile, or the contamination may take over completely. (though I doubt it with those species.) and lastly, if those mushrooms are not found in the wild in your area, they may have more difficulty fruiting. ie. too hot, too, cold, too dry... My advice would be to bury them in the compost untill spring, just deep enough so they don't dry out. If at that point the contamination hasn't taken over transfer to a more suitable outdoor environment. keep it wet, and wait. However, that may screw up the dryads saddle, being a spring, cold weather mush. You may just want to leave that in the compost pile. Considering you have more started, I would recommend experimenting with your outside blocks, you really have nothing to lose, and it will tell you a lot about the personality of the mush.
In my experience, my compost pile would always fruit throughout the year, depending on what was also occuring in the wild. For example, I grew pholiota adiposa which is not native to my area, but would fruit when when other pholiota species were out in the wild. It was not uncommon during that part of the year to see about 40 50 pounds sprouting out of green nasty blocks all over the pile. once after a particular wet spell, I was dumping blocks with the tractor and the entire pile (s) was fruiting different mushrooms. King oysters, blue oysters, pink and golden oysters, bears head , and pholiota adiposa. It looked like a damn parade. Well over a hundred pounds. But most were attacked by pests so i couldn't pick and sell. Maybe a few pounds of each were still good. The temps outside had remained between 68-and 72 degress for about a week.
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GnuBobo
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Re: Tossed several colonized quarts of wood shavings... [Re: socialnorm77]
#5250049 - 02/01/06 03:48 AM (18 years, 25 days ago) |
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Well, this is an experiment with zero capital involved. I just realized yesterday something from Stamets--these colonized shavings are all of the same genetic lineage. If I can get a 10% survival rate through the next couple of cold months, the pile might fuse and grow out en masse around May or June.
This is wishful thinking, but, I'd love to see it happen.
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