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OfflineBlueCoyote
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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: bit_slice]
    #5242649 - 01/30/06 03:50 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

you mean skirts ?
:lol:


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5242712 - 01/30/06 04:09 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Because men are the diviner half of the species.


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: bit_slice]
    #5242731 - 01/30/06 04:16 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Men's "breasts" are not as sensitive, and they are not sexualized in Western culture. 

It seems highly subjective, though. Some cultures expect both sexes to cover up, and some expect neither to cover up.  :shrug:


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: Veritas]
    #5243175 - 01/30/06 05:49 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

i donno if this has been said yet or not, but i've done some resurch on islam, and they are very respectful of women. the woman can make any request befor marrage, and if the husbin dose not hold up to them, she can devorce at will, (with judaisim only the man may devorce)
also, they have dowerys because in there culture they blieve the women deserve to be taken care of properley, its ment to be respectful.
and i've had it explained to that they feel women are so beautiful that it may cause impure thoughts thought out daily life. its kept hidden, because there beauity sholud be seen as a speical thing, not just an everyday thing

certian sects of islam have turned to extreemest, but the sufi's (85% of islams) follow the koran and respect women.

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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: bit_slice]
    #5243656 - 01/30/06 07:27 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

The truth is, is that if you wanted to walk around topless, you would, you are just trying to sensationalize a topic for your own agenda.


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: TheCow]
    #5243786 - 01/30/06 07:52 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

I can understand their reasoning. Every girl i see i have impure thoughts about :smile:


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5244185 - 01/30/06 09:27 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

MushmanTheManic said:
Because men are the diviner half of the species.




that's so funny i forgot to laugh.

hopefully you are being sarcastic....

cause i feel the opposite...yet i'm a man.


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: tak]
    #5244296 - 01/30/06 09:43 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

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root-ninja-tak said:
I can understand their reasoning. Every girl i see i have impure thoughts about :smile:




that is a very extreme statement and i'm guessing it is in fact not ALWAYS (see how i made an extreme too) the case.


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: TameMe]
    #5244534 - 01/30/06 10:31 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Well, I'm glad you remembered.  :grin:

Reread my previous posts and, hopefully, you'll be able to see whether I was being facetious or not.


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5244632 - 01/30/06 10:53 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

i don't remember you being racist.

but then again...i have a poor memory.


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: TameMe]
    #5244694 - 01/30/06 11:05 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Huh?


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: TheCow]
    #5244897 - 01/31/06 12:00 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

TheCow said:
The truth is, is that if you wanted to walk around topless, you would, you are just trying to sensationalize a topic for your own agenda.




:rolleyes:
i am trying to un-sensationalize this thread about how women are soooooo oppressed in Saudi Arabia (not to say that all aren't)


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: Veritas]
    #5244930 - 01/31/06 12:10 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Veritas said:

>> Men's "breasts" are not as sensitive, and they are not sexualized in Western culture.

It seems to me that the face and the hair are sexualized to conservative Islamics.


>> It seems highly subjective, though. Some cultures expect both sexes to cover up, and some expect neither to cover up.

Do you know if any cultures require men to cover up and not the women?


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Re: why do women in middle east cover their faces? [Re: bit_slice]
    #5246769 - 01/31/06 12:37 PM (18 years, 19 days ago)

Do you think it's a sexual issue, or is it more of an identity, control and possession issue?  It seems to me requiring women to cover their faces and hair with the same black cloth would serve the purpose of obscuring their individuality. 

Female adherence to "popular" fashion in the U.S. serves the same purpose. :wink:

No, I don't know of any cultures which require the men to cover up while the women remain uncovered.  I do recall a few primitive cultures in which the men were the ones to wear makeup & jewelry, and to dress up to attract female attention, though.  :grin:


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