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InvisibleAsante
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psychedelic mushrooms and developing nations - a new chapter in the relation between shrooms and man
    #5245405 - 01/31/06 04:18 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Mushroom cultivation is excellent for developing nations. It's a good way to extract edible protein and minerals from waste products (like sawdust & straw) and it makes an excellent commodity for international trade.

Cultivation of culinary mushrooms is on the rise in developing nations, and you can bet we got our share of third-world lurkers who get their knowledge from our cultivation forums and use them on edibles.

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In Asia you have a trend of restaurants who serve a few psilocybin mushrooms in or with their food (for instance Pan Cyan in an omelette in Bali) to produce a satisfactory Level 1 while the food digests, a bit analogous to Dutch coffeeshops who sell weed.

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I have a strong suspicion that in a few years third world nations will flood the wealthier nations with crystalline psilocybin, making psilocybin pills a black market commodity.

It makes perfect sense: a 100 lbs bale of straw can yield an ounce of crystalline psilocybin, and considering the price people pay for an eighth psilocybin has a current estimated retail value of $2.500.000 a kilo and would fetch perhaps $500.000/kg wholesale. That's big business.

Third world nations produce alot of grain for domestic consumption. Psilocybe cubensis is native to just about the entire (sub)tropic zone where these nations are. The mushrooms can be gathered from the wild, grown on the grain and used to spawn the straw of that grain. Grain alcohol is then used to extract psilocybin from the dried mushrooms.
A high value commodity for the developing nations tapping existing and unstoppable resources.

The poorer nations get empowerment and a healthy financial injection through good business, the richer nations get a nontoxic nonaddictive recreational drug deemed an "acceptable risk" by the Dutch government replacing usage of harder drugs.
The human species gets more man-hours a day spent in contemplation leading to a more thought-through society and the earth's ecosystem benefits because people consume/pollute less when they are high on psilocybin, which is entirely organic in origin.

This is how I see it, and in my view it's inevitable that it will. Once it is set in motion it can never be stopped. And slowly but surely the dominant worldwide culture will become a psychedelic culture.

The Revolution is NOW and you are at the heart of it.
It has already begun.


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Re: psychedelic mushrooms and developing nations - a new chapter in the relation between shrooms and [Re: Asante]
    #5247283 - 01/31/06 03:12 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ummmm..... wrong forum? maybe this belongs in the more spiritual forums?
you're a fellow mod, or i'd just move it - where else do people suggest it'd get good responses?


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Re: psychedelic mushrooms and developing nations - a new chapter in the relation between shrooms and [Re: shirley knott]
    #5247540 - 01/31/06 04:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I'll respond to it here, cuz i don't really read non-cult forums.

1. Your optimism is endearing, although I don't share it. The 1960's showed me that psychedelic contemplation isn't enough to help the state of thiings. I'm all for more people trippin', but if we don't provide them with the cultural imperative to stop their rampant consumption and destruction of the biosphere, trippin won't either. I actually know of organized rascist/fascists in my locale that eat shrooms. They obviously need more than psychedelia to straighten them out, and I think the less blatantly (although almost unanimously so) sexist, rascist, classist and fascist aspects of our culture will also need more than another round of psychedlia.

2. Who here would buy black market cryatline psilocybin? I sure wouldn't. I can id a dried (insert species of psychedlic shroom) but I can't id a crystaline powder. But then again, I wouldn't buy a crystaline anything on the blackmarket. That's what chemical extractions and RC suppliers are for. Think about it like this. Anybody that wants to can grow or find all the shrooms they want. Those that aren't willing to, or don't know those that are, are probably the ones that will benefit the least from unguided psychedelic forrays.

3. Why does this make any more sense to come from the 3rd world than it does to come from Idaho? Same resources (even moreso), same skill level, same economic imperative. Yet there is no flood of "Idohan White" psilo crystals on the market. Of course that doesn't mean it's not coming. It may, maybe even probably. But will it catch on? (see 4)

4. I think there already is a fair amount of crystalline psilo's on the black market, but it's sold in the form of chocolates at hippy shows. Without going into industrial production methods, suffice it to say that I know a fairly large number of hippy chocolates have extracts in them rather than fruitbodies, and have for some time. Yet I've never run across the crystals themselves on the black market....

So, I dig your theory, maybe even like to see it happen, but I don't think it's anywhere near a given. I think we are more likely to see this come out of Oregon or FL (moreso than it already is), and to fizzle out as well.

But then again, what do I know? If I were in El Salvador, you better belive I'd take your theory to heart.


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Re: psychedelic mushrooms and developing nations - a new chapter in the relation between shrooms and [Re: mycofile]
    #5247802 - 01/31/06 05:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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mycofile said:
3. Why does this make any more sense to come from the 3rd world than it does to come from Idaho? Same resources (even moreso), same skill level, same economic imperative. Yet there is no flood of "Idohan White" psilo crystals on the market. Of course that doesn't mean it's not coming. It may, maybe even probably. But will it catch on? (see 4)




Well, psilocybin might not be controlled in such countries allowing lots of money to be legally invested in the program


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Re: psychedelic mushrooms and developing nations - a new chapter in the relation between shrooms and [Re: mycofile]
    #5250120 - 02/01/06 05:01 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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mycofile said:
2. Who here would buy black market cryatline psilocybin? I sure wouldn't.



Nor me but I know people who would lap it up.

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mycofile said:
3. Why does this make any more sense to come from the 3rd world than it does to come from Idaho?



more risk in Idaho, some countries are very corrupt and will allow it. Look at the cannabis trade in morroco, or opium growers. I do think LSD manufacture is more economically viable though, once set up.

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