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_OttO_
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: Psilicon]
#19844993 - 04/14/14 06:08 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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No worries, we're always refining and evolving... Thanks for keeping me on my toes...
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Pastywhyte
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: _OttO_]
#19845211 - 04/14/14 06:45 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice looking fruits OttO I can't say I wholeheartedly agree with your methods but, there is no denying that they work well for you. I'd be a hypocrite as well if I said I never did anything that was outside the recommended norm, shit I sterilize my coir/verm sub on a regular basis and am considering going back to the bucket as well. Guess I just love me agar too much, and I hate the fact that people think its hard. If it wasn't for agar, I'd probably still be doing the pf tek
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bodhisatta 
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19845237 - 04/14/14 06:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spore to LC is like looking left and right then walking. Look left right left is going to save your ass all the time.
No doubt you can look left and right and cross 99+ % of the time but for how easy it is to do things the right way for no extra cost other than looking left again or using a SAB I prefer to be mindful all the time it's my grow why not give it the care that it deserves.
I really don't care if you don't look before crossing or don't wear a seatbelt or drive one tenth a point over the legal limit but I'm not going to suggest it or say it looks cool. I don't think you should get a ticket for it, you're still worthy of respect OttO but I still stand by my opinion.
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13shrooms
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: bodhisatta]
#19845764 - 04/14/14 08:14 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Spore to LC is like looking left and right then walking. Look left right left is going to save your ass all the time.
No doubt you can look left and right and cross 99+ % of the time but for how easy it is to do things the right way for no extra cost other than looking left again or using a SAB I prefer to be mindful all the time it's my grow why not give it the care that it deserves.
I really don't care if you don't look before crossing or don't wear a seatbelt or drive one tenth a point over the legal limit but I'm not going to suggest it or say it looks cool. I don't think you should get a ticket for it, you're still worthy of respect OttO but I still stand by my opinion.
agreed, this is why I put my 2 cents in, his tek didnt need attacked because it didnt work for some when it has for many.. dont know if that point was taken from my words but that was the target. 
  
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TheApprentice
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: 13shrooms]
#19846041 - 04/14/14 09:05 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can't believe I saw a Trusted Cultivator tell me to inoculate a LC in open air.
If it works for you, cool... But I love my grows too much.
I would be willing to try your TEK In a SAB.
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DeadHearts

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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: TheApprentice]
#19846054 - 04/14/14 09:08 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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TheApprentice said: I can't believe I saw a Trusted Cultivator tell me to inoculate a LC in open air.
If it works for you, cool... But I love my grows too much.
I would be willing to try your TEK In a SAB. 
He just posted his results above. The proof is in the pudding
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: DeadHearts]
#19846097 - 04/14/14 09:16 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes but when I was new to this hobby I remember hearing about LCs. So I basically did the exact same thing as this tek. Open air. And had horrible success rate. Like none.
All I know is that working in my SAB has made the difference between 0 and 100% - im not knockin the LC, I agree the process should be updated,
but the open air thing....
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DeadHearts

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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: TheApprentice]
#19846115 - 04/14/14 09:19 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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TheApprentice said: Yes but when I was new to this hobby I remember hearing about LCs. So I basically did the exact same thing as this tek. Open air. And had horrible success rate. Like none.
All I know is that working in my SAB has made the difference between 0 and 100% - im not knockin the LC, I agree the process should be updated,
but the open air thing....
If it works for some of the people all the time and some of the people none of the time there might be more to it than simply inoculating in open air wouldn't you think?
Anyway if it work for someone no reason to change it. But if it doesn't work for you there's no doubt you must try something different.
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Asura
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: TheApprentice]
#19846157 - 04/14/14 09:29 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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TheApprentice said: All I know is that working in my SAB has made the difference between 0 and 100% - im not knockin the LC, I agree the process should be updated,
but the open air thing....
This is kind of tangential, but "open air" is not some kind of constant. I am sure there are places in this world where you can have a modicum of success in open air. I have been reading shit on here for years where people say they do it. Granted, not all environments are equal. With that said, I'm in a big, nasty, humid city, so I am going to use an SAB until my flowhood is built.
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DeadHearts

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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: Asura]
#19846172 - 04/14/14 09:31 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Environment, bingo. Some have the right conditions some do not but it's not just about that. There are many variables.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: DeadHearts]
#19846202 - 04/14/14 09:38 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's best to tell people to have some sterile technique like to use a SAB and avoid open air inoculations. It's pretty irresponsible to make a TEK marketed to everyone including noobs considering not everyone environment is the same. I would say *attention if you live in a place not plagued by some contamination that prohibits you from doing open air inoculations this is a TEK for you* You can say well everyone should have a clean place first but apparently some people do not. I doubt TheApprentice's place was in such a shitty state it caused all of his problems, but who knows. He's not inept by any means so maybe it was just his luck but either way I would at least advocate using sterile procedure while working with sterile things.
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DeadHearts

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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: bodhisatta]
#19846238 - 04/14/14 09:45 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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No one is saying (possibly ever) that people SHOULD be doing things in open air. Only that it works and it's ok to try it. For many it works. For others it doesn't. But the way of one man is not the only way for all men. This point has been made to you many times.
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DeadHearts

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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: DeadHearts]
#19846260 - 04/14/14 09:49 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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cronicr said: yeah go figure all my fucking wild prints and steamed jars are kicking ass, my pc'd fucking shit goes south! WTF!
Even sterile practices get fucked every now and again
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cronicr



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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: DeadHearts]
#19846267 - 04/14/14 09:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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indeed
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13shrooms
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: DeadHearts]
#19846440 - 04/14/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: It's pretty irresponsible to make a TEK marketed to everyone including noobs considering not everyone environment is the same.
but thats like saying McDonalds made you fat.. did they order the food? did they chew it up and swallow it? no they put it out there and offered it up.. no one "made" you do anything.. freewill = choices 
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DeadHearts said: No one is saying (possibly ever) that people SHOULD be doing things in open air. Only that it works and it's ok to try it. For many it works. For others it doesn't. But the way of one man is not the only way for all men. This point has been made to you many times.
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Asura
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: bodhisatta]
#19846472 - 04/14/14 10:29 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: It's best to tell people to have some sterile technique like to use a SAB and avoid open air inoculations. It's pretty irresponsible to make a TEK marketed to everyone including noobs considering not everyone environment is the same.
+1. I don't think sterile technique can be stressed enough. I have the notion that many people new to the hobby gloss over it in attempt to reap the motherload harvest (I have an active imagination), but it really is the singular most important piece of business to be conducted.
If anything, a sterile environment is what we should all be obsessing over...instead of the other things we do. I guess it's just not fun.
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DeadHearts

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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: Asura]
#19846484 - 04/14/14 10:32 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: DeadHearts]
#19846563 - 04/14/14 10:51 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:

Really? Someone stressing sterile tek is facepalm worthy? My god people, the goal is to grow mushies not to see how much we can half ass shit and get away with it 
I don't want to stir this shit any more than I have but seriously this hobby is not about doing as little as possible.
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DeadHearts

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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19846574 - 04/14/14 10:54 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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DeadHearts said:

Really? Someone stressing sterile tek is facepalm worthy? My god people, the goal is to grow mushies not to see how much we can half ass shit and get away with it 
I don't want to stir this shit any more than I have but seriously this hobby is not about doing as little as possible.
Really. We are not saying YOU SHOULD NOT USE STERILE TEKs.
But do not deny open air teks do not work and work well because they do
Edited by DeadHearts (04/14/14 10:56 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: A *beginner friendly* method for making Liquid Culture [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19846586 - 04/14/14 10:56 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like to give people the calculus rather than lie to them about it with algebra.
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