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The nature of space and time. black holes)
#5235292 - 01/28/06 01:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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not anymore it isn't.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5235302 - 01/28/06 01:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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That makes no sense.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
#5235324 - 01/28/06 01:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess you have no physics background.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5235343 - 01/28/06 01:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5235352 - 01/28/06 01:41 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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tracks.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5235374 - 01/28/06 01:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe later.
Edited by Dmonikal (02/03/06 10:04 PM)
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5235483 - 01/28/06 02:24 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dmonikal said: I guess you have no physics background.
and what is your physics background?
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5235494 - 01/28/06 02:30 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dmonikal said:..pure sucking energy.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) *DELETED* [Re: DieCommie]
#5235539 - 01/28/06 02:52 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Post deleted by DmonikalReason for deletion: leavin town for a few days
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5235713 - 01/28/06 04:07 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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A black hole is a concentration of mass great enough that the force of gravity prevents anything from escaping it except through quantum tunnelling behaviour (known as Hawking Radiation). The gravitational field is so strong that the escape velocity near it exceeds the speed of light. This implies that nothing, not even light, can escape its gravity, hence the word "black". The term "black hole" is widespread, even though it does not refer to a hole in the usual sense, but rather a region of space from which nothing can return.
The existence of black holes in the universe is well supported by astronomical observation, particularly from studying X-ray emission from X-ray binaries and active galactic nuclei.
Just wikipedia it it make things much easier.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: WhiteBunny]
#5235895 - 01/28/06 05:07 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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later.
Edited by Dmonikal (02/03/06 09:34 PM)
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5236127 - 01/28/06 06:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to feel bad about laughing at people. Then I realized, some people are not just idiots, they're cumbersome idiots that are a burden to society. So now, if someone provides nothing of value to a community, and yet is a burden to that community, then it's OK to laugh.
Laughing at people like that is sort of like helping them to become more productive members of the community. By laughing at cumbersome idiots you allow them to provide something of value in return for the burden they pose to the community.
Having said that, I hope you don't think I'm flaming you when I say AAAAAGH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Srirachi]
#5236166 - 01/28/06 07:05 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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"But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5237518 - 01/29/06 02:57 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dmonikal said: I guess you have no physics background.
I've been studying physics at the university level for 6-some-odd years now. I'm about 2 weeks shy of a physics M.Sc. degree. You guessed wrong.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
#5238063 - 01/29/06 10:25 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I too have a physics background even though I question my retention of the subject. Reference what you think to some source so we can read it.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5238082 - 01/29/06 10:31 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dmonikal said: No a black hole is a single molecule so dense that its gravity folds space around it, creating antimatter waves that form into a vortex and matter is inverted into itself which cannot happen so it becomes inverse. IE there are infinite dimensions infinitely in opposition to each other, IE heaven and hell and whatever other supra entities are out there, interesting enough a fusion reaction against a similar reaction directed in one direction with a extreme force in front to push things out of the way (like planets etc) because time = space = distance=mass=energy=void=inverse=anti.
Please explain how a entire star becomes one molecule.....
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: mikeownow]
#5238315 - 01/29/06 11:59 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Indeed, the single molecule part of your black-hole theory is quite intriguing. Please explain what you mean. I thought scientists were somewhat unable to describe the behavior and the state of the matter forming black hole itself, since the density is beyond most theoretical breaking-points (except perhaps quantum theory?)
But I am no expert in the matter. I'm just asking questions here
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: RiverMan]
#5238437 - 01/29/06 12:41 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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orginial poster = retard
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
#5238816 - 01/29/06 02:14 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use advanced Physics and Space/Time constants everyday!
Step 1. Take a volumed measure of an aqueous solution, consisting of two elements of disporpotion value. Step 2. Apply excessive energy causing the solution to quantumly change it's mass at a constant rate. Step 3. Discontinue applied energy. Step 4. Alter the molecular composistion of the solution by added specified Carbon based matter. Step 5. Apply approved and accepted Space/Time practices. (Leave and Wait) Step 6. Introduce 1 or 2 carbon chain additives to the solution, to ensure proper buffering. Step 7. Drink Tea.
Please note that if you remove step 5, you could effectively change step 7. to Flush Toilet. But they are very different results and methodologies. NOT TO BE TRIED BE THE UNSCIENTIFIC MIND!
But I did it ALL without Math!!!
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Shdwstr]
#5239655 - 01/29/06 06:54 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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He's prolly one of those self taught physicists.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Shdwstr]
#5239994 - 01/29/06 08:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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LOL! good one
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Shdwstr]
#5240990 - 01/30/06 01:46 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you confusing me with Dmonikal?
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
#5241029 - 01/30/06 02:20 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not at all... I just though you might get the humour in the post!
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
#5241696 - 01/30/06 10:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
ChuangTzu said: Are you confusing me with Dmonikal?
It's the red avtar! I think I confused you two myself...
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: DocPsilocybin]
#5242122 - 01/30/06 01:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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DocPsilocybin said:
Quote:
ChuangTzu said: Are you confusing me with Dmonikal?
It's the red avtar! I think I confused you two myself...
Same. I started to lose faith in higher education when I thought that Dmonikal was about to get his masters.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: DocPsilocybin]
#5242444 - 01/30/06 02:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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DocPsilocybin said: It's the red avtar! I think I confused you two myself...
That's what I figured, just wanted to clear that up.
Just for good measure: I AM NOT THE IDIOT THAT STARTED THIS THREAD.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
#5248635 - 01/31/06 08:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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deleted. I want nothing to do with microsoft.
Edited by Dmonikal (02/03/06 08:39 PM)
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5250316 - 02/01/06 08:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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i know who you are.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5250321 - 02/01/06 08:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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> so time and space become nil therefor going back in time.
Make up your photographic mind... is time nil, or is time going backwards, or am I simply not understanding your babble?
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Seuss]
#5250518 - 02/01/06 10:01 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I read someone once that having is photographic mind has never been proven. Most people with extremely good memories just learn how to categorize things to remember them. I saw this test on someone who memorized a blackboard of maybe 200 number but when he was asked to go down two rows and four numbers over he couldn't think of the #.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: WhiteBunny]
#5250566 - 02/01/06 10:23 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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> I read someone once that having is photographic mind has never been proven.
It is a debatable topic, but what you remember reading is pretty much thought to be correct. Children tend to have more of a photographic memory, but loose it quickly as their brains learn how to better organize data. With adults, photographic memory is typically only seen in the mentally retarded. The theory is that their brains never formed the pathways needed to allow for better organization of data. The "movie style" photographic memory is a fiction of Hollywood. Almost every case of adult photographic memory is actually the application of memorization techniques towards remembering what is seen.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Seuss]
#5251080 - 02/01/06 01:29 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also gone
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5251120 - 02/01/06 01:41 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the question, is a blackhole really a hole in space, or is it just a point in space that's a giant ball of extreme gravity, more like a magnet which all sticks to?
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Maverick]
#5251188 - 02/01/06 01:59 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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To answer your question, you have to assume at least two things:
a) blackholes exist, b) there exists a meaningful answer to that question.
Personally, I'm not prepared to accept either of those assumptions and as such, I can't answer your question.
I mean, even if I go along with a) just for a minute here (because it seems perfectly plausible that blackholes could exist) what difference does it make whether you say there is a hole, a singularity, a tear in the fabric of space-time, or a cosmic toilet? Ultimately, those are just half-assed attempts at trying to draw analogy between a completely foreign "object" and something more familiar. Even the term black hole is misleading.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: ChuangTzu]
#5251261 - 02/01/06 02:19 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bubye.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5251839 - 02/01/06 04:35 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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"One through nine, no maybes, no supposes, no fractions. You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without, like, you know, uh, with fractions - what are you going to land on - one-quarter, three-eighths? What are you going to do when you go from here to Venus or something?"
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5255296 - 02/02/06 01:18 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dmonikal said: ... black holes eventually suck in the entire universe...
I'm more concerned if I'm getting sucked, rather than the universe...  Sorry, I've got a one track mind
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Shdwstr]
#5255496 - 02/02/06 02:07 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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cya.
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5255914 - 02/02/06 03:55 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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How are you going to calculate, err I mean figure out, what the "maximum mass possible" is without math?
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Re: The nature of space and time. black holes) [Re: Dmonikal]
#5257071 - 02/02/06 08:45 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can do physics without math.
Yeah? I can overhaul truck engines without tools. We should team up!
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