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OfflinePr0_X
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PF cakes vs PF casings
    #5234347 - 01/28/06 07:01 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

This is for all the new visitor's that are coming to this part of the forum for all their cultivation needs. I just thought id explain to everyone my current f*cked up situation involving the PF tek...

Ok, I had six cakes 100% colonized they were the BRF+Verm from the PFtek. Anywho, What I did with one cake was, I made a big batch of extra substrate put it in the oven on 350 for two hours, cooked the hell out of it then I removed it from the oven while it was still nice and hot and placed it in a tupperwear container, patting it down gently with a alcohole sterlized spoon as I did so..

after that I took my broken up malabar cake and scattered chunks of it all across the steaming hot substrate then I incased it with more of the hot substrate, put the lid on it and placed it in darkness for a week, after a week it was pretty much fully colonized (I had added four jars of substrate material) so you can imagine how fast it was colonizing. Next, I applyed my casing layer Peatmoss+Verm and now today while my three PF cakes I left whole are staggering along, that malabar casing has initiated massive pins...

The point is, you need not fear casings. Im a noob, if i could do it, you can do it and they are so much better then crappy PF cakes. Hope you try it and see for yourselfs.  :laugh:


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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: Pr0_X]
    #5234359 - 01/28/06 07:21 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm youd think that putting the mixture in it wile its still so hot would kill the mycelium?

P.S http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/organic_grains.htm Is this the rite kind of rye?


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Edited by mikeownow (01/28/06 07:22 AM)

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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: mikeownow]
    #5234489 - 01/28/06 08:42 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ill second the above statement. thats pretty damn fast to be moving shit around, and at that tempature. i would think it WOULD have killed it.

good post, much luck to you and the other newbs.


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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5234492 - 01/28/06 08:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

wait..... you made substrate......put it in a tupperware....put crumled cake on top of it....then put more substrate above it....in a tupperware....then it started pinning?

WHILE this was all hot as hell still?


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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5234669 - 01/28/06 09:45 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

wierd... i don't think you followed any advice on this site.

when you put your sub material in the oven, was it wet or dry?

and why did you add spawn while it was hot?  i would like to see a pic of this, i don't think i clearly understand :confused:


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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: Pr0_X]
    #5234680 - 01/28/06 09:48 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Pr0_X said:
I took my broken up malabar cake and scattered chunks of it all across the steaming hot substrate then I incased it with more of the hot substrate




Apparently he used it steaming hot....


I agree with you, good luck to all the newbies...


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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: Pr0_X]
    #5234719 - 01/28/06 09:58 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Hey man great post. I am about to get into casing and I have been very intimidated about it...this makes me feel a lot better!  :laugh:


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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: Dr_Demented]
    #5234742 - 01/28/06 10:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I decided to use a hot substrate over a cool one for a few reasons, one, there was defiantly no contams in it while it was that hot, two it would have killed any contams in the buttom casing layer even though I cooked the living hell out of that aswell...and yes, chances are some myc will die because of the heat but not all of it so after the substrate cools it will just recover anywho and seeing how fresh myc colonized so quickly over the added substrate its as if you used 4 or 5 fully colonized cakes in your casing.

Dont get me wrong, this is a risky way of producing extra substrate for your casing but if your enviorment is nice and clean and you spray it down with a disinfectent prior to this, you should be in the safe and your pf casings will show their love :smile:

Once I get my hands on a cam i'll post a tek showing the pictures for any none beleivers.


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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: Pr0_X]
    #5234756 - 01/28/06 10:10 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

crazy, but hey, sounds like he made it work. Without anyone thinking outside the box, it's fairly safe to say that nobody would be doing any growing what so ever.

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Re: PF cakes vs PF casings [Re: Pr0_X]
    #5266600 - 02/05/06 03:18 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I've noticed that warm outmeal will heat up the fridge if you put it in while it's still warm to the touch if you use a big enough pot to store it all... Substrate strikes me as something that would retain heat too, which I'm sure the myc loves when they're making their own. If the still warm substrate was just cool enough to safely not roast the cakes, it would probably stay warm the same way horse poo can... just a thought


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