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Indian Culture and Peyote Legality
    #5228770 - 01/26/06 11:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I read somewhere that certain members of Indian tribes can legally use peyote as it is a part of their religion. Does anyone know if this applies to the U.S. and how about proving your heritage? I have a friend who can trace his ancestry to a tribe that used peyote for ceremonial reasons and well, wants some peyote. Does anyone know about how he can go about claiming this?

If I'm wrong let me know.

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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: Animals]
    #5228820 - 01/27/06 12:07 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

well, there is something about having to belong to the native american church or some other closely named group within the native american culture. which i doubt you can belong to if you are not of native descent.

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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: Animals]
    #5228916 - 01/27/06 12:34 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

In the United States it is legal for members of the Native American Church to use peyote, because their ritual use of it predates the american government, and also predates the laws passed against peyote.

Therefore, for the government to prohibit their use of peyote would be an infringement upon freedom of religion.

That's why it was legalized.

This is interesting to anyone, but practical knowledge to few, unless they are interested in becoming a member of the native american church for reasons other than being allowed to partake of peyote.


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: Konnrade]
    #5228942 - 01/27/06 12:40 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Your friend need not trace his culture back to peyote ritual, though that would be an amazing thing. He only needs to be 25% native american, and a member of the NAC.

If thats not the case, one could import lophophora seeds and grow his own. It just takes a very, very long time. Grafting is another idea though. Check out mushmush.nl.

Of course, there is always the trichocereus option, but I think your question is only about legal traditional native american usage. 25%.


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5232030 - 01/27/06 06:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I met a member of the NAC whilst playing world of warcraft. He lives near san diego. He's developed some cunning methods for getting peyote to maturity in around 5 years.

I beleive he uses grafting and some good fertilizers.

He also says he has lots of san pedro growing in the wild nearby.

Needless to say, I've always envied his abundant supply of mescaline.


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: Konnrade]
    #5232494 - 01/27/06 09:03 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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I met a member of the NAC whilst playing world of warcraft. He lives near san diego. He's developed some cunning methods for getting peyote to maturity in around 5 years.

I beleive he uses grafting and some good fertilizers.

He also says he has lots of san pedro growing in the wild nearby.

Needless to say, I've always envied his abundant supply of mescaline.





Does he do extractions or consume it the traditional way?


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: abrad84]
    #5232505 - 01/27/06 09:05 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

He comsumes it traditionally.


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: Konnrade]
    #5232596 - 01/27/06 09:32 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

There aint nothing like getting a heavy case of cactus gas.
I even eat san pedro and boil the skins.
I knew you had to be a member of NAC, but I didnt know you also had to be 25% NA to eat peyote.
So a church service might be like, "all those who are 25 or more % native american come get your dose, all others who believe go to the back of the church. Kinda weird.
I guess Im asking, do you have to be 25% native american to be a member?


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: stemmer]
    #5232727 - 01/27/06 10:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

you can do peyote with the peyote church in arizona for some money, you get to go out and pick your own trip spot, sit down, drink your tea.

and experience.

i would very much like to do it some day.

most states don't allow peyote, some do just for native americans, some do for anyone with sincere religious intent.


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: leery11]
    #5232815 - 01/27/06 10:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I kinda figured.

I still want to know, do you have to be 25% native american to be an actual member.


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: stemmer]
    #5232993 - 01/27/06 11:13 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

no


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: Jaeger]
    #5233043 - 01/27/06 11:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thats what I thought.


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Re: Indian Culture and Peyote Legality [Re: stemmer]
    #5233071 - 01/27/06 11:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry for being a dick above :smile:
Check out the laws by state
http://www.peyote.net/archive/law.htm


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