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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #526455 - 01/20/02 10:06 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Those pans are no stronger than cubensis and tiny. I'll take cubensis anyday!

And I gotta say, I don't know who is worse for posting 'nothing' as an excuse to post their sig...rolf or boxtop.



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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #526460 - 01/20/02 10:15 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Good Morning to you too Max.

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #526493 - 01/20/02 11:14 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to discourage people from trying it. I highly endorse the experimentation with other species, it's how one learns about mycology. I pick and photograph dozens of species here on Mt. Elphie.

And the Pan cams are a potent shroom, as much as cubensis, but a lot smaller. Claims such as 'size means nothing', are a personal opinion, not fact.

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #526511 - 01/20/02 11:34 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ralphster44]
    #526525 - 01/20/02 12:00 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

i've grown cubensis, and pan trops, the pans are much stronger, i grow both myself. if i eat 4 grams cubensis dry i have a great time, i eat 4 grams dry of pans i can't walk!

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #528665 - 01/22/02 10:25 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry Max.
Pan Cyanscens and Pan Cambodginiensis are both far more potent than Psilocybe Cubensis. I know this from personal experience and I can prove it.
Both these Panaeolus species require only about 2 grams dried to give a near level five experience - whereas Cubensis usually requires 5 grams plus for a level five type experience. That is why they are called bluemeanies.
The basic difference [in potency (edit)] between Pan.Cyan and Pan.Cambo is the relative levels of Psilocybin and psilocin. Pan Cyans have a stronger level of psilocybin and less than pan cambo which has higher levels of psilocin. Maxima from Stamets:
' Pan Cyanscens: Moderately potent. .71% psilocybin - .04%psilocin and .01%baeocystin
Pan Cambodginiensis: .55% psilocybin - .60% psilocin
Psilocybe Cubensis: .50% psilocybin - .25% psilocin and/or .63% psilocybin - .11% psilocin'

Ralphster - Id have to say that Ps.Cyanescens (wavycaps) are a bit more potent than pans. Maxima from Stamets:
'Psilocybe Cyanescens: 1.68% psilocybin - .28% psilocin
Psilocybe Azurescens: 1.78% psilocybin - .38% psilocin
and .35% baeocystin
Psilocybe Semilanceata: 1.12% - 2.37% psilocybin - .36% baeocystin.'

Anyway - go with tassie cubensis as they are soo easy to fruit and colonise.


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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: tullycraft]
    #528708 - 01/22/02 11:08 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I think you will find few cubensis that have the visuals that the PF's have, but the eq's, the maz's and the puerto's are right up there too. I think they have syringes for those.


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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: tullycraft]
    #528720 - 01/22/02 11:18 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

GOLDEN TEACHER- sporeworks
EQUADOR- from anyone
LIPA YA- Hawks eye

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #528737 - 01/22/02 11:36 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

i go away for a coupla days and then you guys have me all fucked up on whats good and whats not good!!! afoaf has cambodians growing (from ralph) and lipas from (the) on another post, im hearing that lipas suck, THAT SUX...! if thats true.im hearing that the cambos will flip your shit, which one is it? and i always thought that these little monsters were different with everyone anyways. can someone please shed sum SERIOUS light on my ass?

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #528744 - 01/22/02 11:43 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

The Pan./Cop. cyanescens, tropicalis, cambodginiensis are the most potent shrooms that can be grown INDOORS, with minimal effort. Yields are drastically reduced compared to cubensis. You will get more doses from a casing of cubensis then from a casing of Pan./Copelandia's even with the increased potency. Copelandias are the gourmet psychedelic mushroom for indoor cultivation. If yields, quantity of trips, and ease of spore printing are your priority, stick with the cubensis.

Personally, I would rather have a ounce of Copelandia's then a quarter pound of cubensis, if I could only have one or the other. The wonderfull thing about it is, you don't have to choose, you can have both.

If you live in a Cold climate, you can even get into setting up outdoor beds of the most potent shrooms in the world . But for all the tropical folks on the OMC, it doesn't get any better then the COPELANDIAS. Easy, fast, potent!!!!!!!

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #528756 - 01/23/02 12:01 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Ease of growth from multispore directly into substrate. EQUADOR
If you isolate on agar, GOLDEN TEACHER from sporeworks, ease of growth, and speed is unbeatable.
LIPA YA's from Hawk are the best of the TAIS in this opinion, very beatuiful shrooms and good size, easy to pin, NEEDS GOOD AIR EXCHANGE TO MATURE.
CAMBODIANS are very MEATY shrooms, and large size, but NEEDS VERY GOOD AIR EXCHANGE.

My Favorite is Isolated Strains of the Sporeworks GT. It is impossible to fuck up. Casing to Maturity(spore drop) 13 days. I have not found one quicker then that in any of the Strains(spore races) I have tried. It will fruit in a sealed box with ZERO air exchange, except to maybe mist every once in a blue moon. It is an abundant pinner, but not too many that it takes away from size. Less then 1% aborts. This is the best in my OPINION, for cubensis.

Results will vary from grow set-up to grow set-up. I don't think there are many out there with as MINIMAL a set-up.

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #529013 - 01/23/02 10:33 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

ralph I would love a print could you Please pm the price for postage and everything :smile: to me in south africa again :smile: thanxz man

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ]
    #529031 - 01/23/02 11:09 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: ralphster44]
    #529048 - 01/23/02 11:36 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Hey ralphster...

I've been to your free spore ring page, but it only has a listing of your personal prints. What do you have for the free spore ring?

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Re: What spore race to order? [Re: tullycraft]
    #529055 - 01/23/02 11:58 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Even our Ex-Prez likes larger lol



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