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Drying Cop. Cyanescens
#5213274 - 01/23/06 05:31 AM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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Sorry if this post is in the wrong section, I'm a newb and didn't know where else to post.
Two nights ago me and 2 mates of mine found 140g of Copelandia Cyanescens and had a wonderful night to say the least . I ended up taking home 21g for myself and am currently trying to dry them for future consumption. I have kept them in a paper bag for most of the time but have also dried them out infront of a fan for roughly 5 hours. I don't know what colour they should turn when they become dry but they've turned black and I'm wondering if this is ok?
I've read the guides on Shroomery for drying/storing and one thing they don't really say clearly is what to keep them in after they've dried. Should I just stick the dried shrooms in a zip-lock bag with a pack of desiccant and stash them somewhere dark? Or would a glass jar be a better idea? Thanks in advance
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Get them bone dry, poweder up real fine and cram into small glass vials, or those little honey jars you get in hotels, then freeze them. Otherwise keep in a cool dark place. Did they turn dark blue rather than jet black? blueing is normal
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Re: Drying Cop. Cyanescens [Re: blackout]
#5216515 - 01/24/06 01:27 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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When they were fresh they were blueing quite fast but after drying them for 5 hours I couldn't tell if they had gone dark blue or black, it doesn't help either that the Cyans we found weren't the largest around and drying them made them rather tiny.
Also, is it normal for ~21 grams of fresh Cop. Cyans to dry down to ~1.4 grams? I thought they were made up of 90% water, which should mean they should've dried to around ~2 grams.
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First off, this has been answered on numerous ocassions.
I would like to point out that proper handling of the mushrooms when picking can help in the preservation of the alkaloids for which the mushrooms are famous for.
1. Always use a paper bag or a cardboard box duck as a Ritz cracker box when picking.
2. when moving from paddie to paddie, always carry the bag with the top open using your fingers to secure the bag at the top. Carry this bag like a new born baby. Or a fricken hot cup of java ot tea. Do not let the shrooms inthe bag bounce around. Carry it carefully and continue your adventure of collecting wild specimens.
3. Try not to squeeze the mushroom when picking. Use your first two fingers to lightly twist and lift the shroom from the manure.
Then sse your bottom fingers to flick off any remain manure by placing those fingers around two sides of the bottom of the stem. Slide the finger carefully along the bottom part of the shroom and try not to damage the stem or cap when flicking the remaing manure pices off of the shroom. In this way you will not cause any oxidation of compounds when handling.
Then in drying, you should lay the shrooms down individually so they are not touching one another. If they touch, this will also cause them to blue. Bluing in psuilocybian mushrooms is an indication of the presence of psilocin.
Here are a few examples of fresh collected shrooms with little or no oxidation.





Observe the non-bluing conditon of these beautiful sacred shrooms?
Those are but just a few images of collected shrooms from this summer on two trips to Thailand. I collected over 15,000 specimens of Copes and Cubes.
Below are some copes drying on paper and some drying on paper in a cardboard soda box.


Mj,
I hope this post has been helpful. Always take real good care of the children. They are you.
BTW, a fresh pound of shrooms dries to approx. one dried ounce, or 20 to 30 dried grams.
mj
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Re: Drying Cop. Cyanescens [Re: mjshroomer]
#5216949 - 01/24/06 08:30 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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mjshroomer said: Always take real good care of the children. They are you.
mj
I'm not a doctor, but if you think that you are a mushroom - then maybe you need to lay off them for a while....
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Re: Drying Cop. Cyanescens [Re: _OttO_]
#5217593 - 01/24/06 12:18 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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You know, Wasson, Ott, Weil, Stamets, both McKenna Brothers, Gartz, Sasha Shulgin, Gary Menser, Steven Pollock, and Timothy Leary have all referred to the shrooms on ocassion as being children.
So did the Oaxacan Sabio Maria Sabina, as well as most Mazatec Shamans. And 7 other groups of native ancestors of the once muighty Olmec, Toltec and Aztec peoples also often refer to the shrooms as children in one form or anothet.
I have always referred to them as children.
The majority of Mazatec curanderas, shamans, brujos, and sabios, also refer to them as children,
Here are a few examples from the literature of traditional names both Nahuatl and Espana, as well as Mazatec, Mixes, Mixtec, Zapotec and Otomi languages.
ni?os del agua (children of the water). ni?o, ninito, (boy, boys). chamaquillos (little boys). angelito (little saint). hombrecito (little men, a smaller version of P. mexicana). hembras (girl mushrooms). los chamaquitos (little girls). los ninos (little people). Known in Spanish as: mujercitas (little women). hombrecitos (little men). se?oritas (little girls). santitos (little saints). angelitos (little saints). ni?as or ni?o. "dear little children.",
are but a few of the many endearing epithets used to describe the adoration, respect, and esteem many Mesoamericans hold when expressing their love for the sacred mushrooms. The ancient Nahua adorned the sacred mushrooms like beautiful flowers and their cultural importance has been significantly immortalized as well as botanically depicted along with other sacred plants on an ancient statue known as "Xochipilli" (the "prince of flowers).
I would like to mention that these indigenous folk also referred to the sacred shrooms as senors, mayors, saints, mushrooms of reason. I like that last one.
Mj,
If you want to learn more than read the Ancient Shamanic musrhoom Names of meso America and Other Regions of the World .
and have a shroomy day,
mj
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Re: Drying Cop. Cyanescens [Re: mjshroomer]
#5219170 - 01/24/06 07:15 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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I was referring to this part of your post -
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mjshroomer said: Always take real good care of the children. They are you.
mj
They ARENT you - if you think they are, there is a problem...
I like the comparison to treating them as your children - this is true and if you treat them as gentle as this it makes for a much nicer final product when you return home.
I would also HIGHLY recommend a small, sharp pair of scissors to cut off the volva before putting them in the bag - to stop all the other specimines getting covered in dirt/manure.
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mjshroomer said: I would like to mention that these indigenous folk also referred to the sacred shrooms as senors, mayors, saints, mushrooms of reason. I like that last one.
'mushrooms of reason' - Sums it up nicely...
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Re: Drying Cop. Cyanescens [Re: _OttO_]
#5220223 - 01/25/06 12:26 AM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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You ashould not use scissors on copes. This causes severe oxidation of psilocine, The purpose of care keeps the compunds safe. Cutting a stem is bruising and severe injury and the stipes can blue black real fast.
mj
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Re: Drying Cop. Cyanescens [Re: mjshroomer]
#5220625 - 01/25/06 03:58 AM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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Dont they only blue at the point where you make the cut? If this is so, that is only a very small percentage of the total amount of active's in the entire fruit.
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Re: Drying Cop. Cyanescens [Re: _OttO_]
#5220635 - 01/25/06 04:06 AM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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thanks for the helpful tips mjshroomer, I'll remember to take great care of them in the future
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