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OfflineDiMeNSioN
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4-hydroxy-DPT or 4-hydroxy-DIPT instead of psilocin
    #5219497 - 01/24/06 08:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

cool post from a cool site:
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/blg/index.html

However there is a very interesting study that took place in Leipzig about 15 years ago. Jochen Gartz, a mushroom explorer

whom I know quite well, has done some fascinating studies with Psilocybe species by raising them on solid media containing

strange tryptamines that are alien to the mushroom. Apparently the enzymes that are responsible for the 4-hydroxy group of

psilocin are indifferent to what it is they choose to 4-hydroxylate. He has taken things like DPT or DIPT and put them in

the growth media and the fruiting bodies that came out contain 4-hydroxy-DPT or 4-hydroxy-DIPT instead of psilocin. In fact,

he has a patent on the process. These active compounds are made by the mushroom so they really are natural and yet they

never have been observed in nature. I'll give you even odds that if you put spores of a psilocybe species on cow droppings

loaded with 5-MeO-DMT you would come out with mushrooms containing 4,5-HO-MeO-DMT. This way you avoid a 10 step synthesis by

growing a psychoactive mushroom that contains no illegal drug.


http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/blg/index.html

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Re: 4-hydroxy-DPT or 4-hydroxy-DIPT instead of psilocin [Re: DiMeNSioN]
    #5220567 - 01/25/06 03:15 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

wow, thats freakin cool.


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Re: 4-hydroxy-DPT or 4-hydroxy-DIPT instead of psilocin [Re: sui]
    #5220922 - 01/25/06 07:53 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

:/ It would still be an analog.

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Re: 4-hydroxy-DPT or 4-hydroxy-DIPT instead of psilocin [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5355692 - 03/01/06 11:05 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Sinthetic said:
:/ It would still be an analog.




Probably, but they wouldn't test for 4,5 HO MeO DMT. Maybe they would test for 4 HO DMT and 4 PO DMT and not finding any drop the illegal mushroom charge. That is if you are a very lucky hippie.

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Re: 4-hydroxy-DPT or 4-hydroxy-DIPT instead of psilocin [Re: shymanta]
    #5409164 - 03/16/06 04:23 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

hmm 4-ho mipt happens to be one chemical i hold in high regard. if I put mipt in the substrate i get 4-ho mipt? well that is a thoght.

but this would be expensive, these chemicals are rather expensive. but i suspect also dangerous because there would be no way to tell how much alkaloids would be present in each mushroom.. .. but very intresting.

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