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 Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World  [Re: Swami]
#522081 - 01/16/02 05:26 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok swami you win. I give up.
I'm a cult leader and our goal is to kill the inferior race (everyone but us) and then commit mass suicide so we can merge with the mothership hiding behind the moon.
Happy now?
Jesus....
(Goes outside in a fit of laughing hysterics)
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Swami]
#522082 - 01/16/02 05:30 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Apparently, no statistics on the percentage of cases cured exist, and one must decide whether the "cures" recorded were due to Cayce's miraculous psychic insight or to a combination of the placebo effect, natural recoveries, patient selection, good common sense, dumb luck, cold reading techniques, and vague changes counted as successes.
Who cares how it happened? The point is it worked. The reason not very many "misses" were not recorded is based on the basic fact that were not very many of them. I remember reading somewhere the ratio of "Hits" vs. "misses" were somewhere in the area of 600:1.
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#522083 - 01/16/02 05:30 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn, two posts while I was editing (adding to) my last one... that always sucks.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Ulysees]
#522084 - 01/16/02 05:31 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I called no one a fanatic.
This article was about a man who started from a place of caring and wanting to do the right thing and got carried away to a place where he could rationalize irrational acts.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: ]
#522085 - 01/16/02 05:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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>The reason not very many "misses" were not recorded is based on the basic fact that were not very many of them.
And the fact that most people were probably not consumed with the need to condemn the guy. It's our modern society that truly thrives on the failures and shortcomings of others. We're the ones who dwell on the misses and ignore the hits. We're the ones who only believe in failures as truth. Look at the checkout line of any grocery/drug/conveinience store.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Swami]
#522086 - 01/16/02 05:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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So you were not implying anything by posting that article? Then what was the point?
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Swami]
#522087 - 01/16/02 05:35 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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>This article was about a man who started from a place of caring and wanting to do the right thing and got carried away to a place where he could rationalize irrational acts.
Yes, such as yourself. You mean well, that much is obvious, but that's where it seems to end.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Ulysees]
#522088 - 01/16/02 05:36 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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After reading that article several times, I think it describes Swami just as much as it does either of us.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: ]
#522089 - 01/16/02 05:36 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok swami you win. I give up.
I'm a cult leader and our goal is to kill the inferior race (everyone but us) and then commit mass suicide so we can merge with the mothership hiding behind the moon.
Happy now?
Jesus....
(Goes outside in a fit of laughing hysterics)
Laugh away. I did not make up the comet/mothership connection. I see no qualitative difference between that and your sci-fi scenarios.
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#522090 - 01/16/02 05:40 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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If it describes any of us it definately describes Swami just as well.
The irony... If I had that article I would've posted it too.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Swami]
#522092 - 01/16/02 05:41 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Laugh away. I did not make up the comet/mothership connection. I see no qualitative difference between that and your sci-fi scenarios.
You see no difference? Well I mean I can understand if you don't understand the difference between an orange or an apple...I mean...they are both fruit after all.
But tell me, how are my writings dangerous to other people? What is my philosophy?
Seriously, I want to know what you think.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: ]
#522097 - 01/16/02 05:47 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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They were bright, idealistic, hard-working, self-sacrificing individuals who believed strongly, completely, in the justness of their causes. With rare exception, their fanaticism was rooted in a sincere intention to right wrongs, "clean up" sins, impurities or injustices, establish a society fully compliant with what they felt certain was God's will.
After reading that article several times, I think it describes Swami just as much as it does either of us.
Perhaps. However, I make NO claims on the future, the end of the world, life after death or knowing the mind of God.
I tell no one WHAT position to take. I have NO religious or societal agenda. I am not trying to win anyone over to "my Way" of thinking except to say,"Validate your own position through critical thinking instead of blind acceptance."
Does that message so disturb you?
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: ]
#522100 - 01/16/02 05:49 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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>You see no difference? Well I mean I can understand if you don't understand the difference between an orange or an apple...I mean...they are both fruit after all.
But tell me, how are my writings dangerous to other people? What is my philosophy?
Seriously, I want to know what you think.
That's the thing. I mentioned something earlier about comparing cherry bombs to hand grenades and hand grenades to nuclear weapons... Perhaps you're a hand grenade. If he compares you against a cherry bomb, you're going to look pretty bad. If he compares you to a nuclear bomb, you're going to look pretty miniscule... I don't know where exactly I'm going with this anymore, I should leave, but it has something to do with taking an accurate measurement. Before accurate increments were invented and used, people would measure their horses with their hands. Well, if I said I had a huge horse, that doesn't mean much. Perhaps my hands are small, perhaps the horse is gargantuan...
There's no scale that's accurate for measuring threats like this... Swami thinks his hands are accurate, but I've never seen Swami's hands, so the whole argument is based solely on his perception.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Swami]
#522105 - 01/16/02 06:02 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Perhaps. However, I make NO claims on the future, the end of the world, life after death or knowing the mind of God.
I tell no one WHAT position to take. I have NO religious or societal agenda. I am not trying to win anyone over to "my Way" of thinking except to say,"Validate your own position through critical thinking instead of blind acceptance."
And that is why you are Swami and I am Shroomism.
I am not trying to "win" anyone over to my way of thinking, only to find like-minded individuals who like to discuss these issues. (Which seems to work...even with the people who don't agree)
My philosophy is that everyone is a spiritual being living a series of physical existances in which they gain wisdom and grow through personal experience...eventually to transcend the material plane and merge with the essence of Creation as one as it was in the beginning. The only thing I have ever stated that you must do is to choose to live life serving other or serving yourself in order to get into the 4th density. I don't say this because I imagined it, I say it because that is the way it is.
I don't tell people how to live their lives or that they must obey my commands. I am merely a teacher of things spiritual and my purpose is to help awaken the mass consciousness to this spiritual level.
You are on the science side of things, and therefore question anything that cannot be proven. Which is fine.
My point is...that somewhere along the line the spiritual community and scientific community will have to reach a middle ground.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Swami]
#522332 - 01/16/02 11:15 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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You are all wrong and talking bullshit.
Look critically at your beliefs and sources. I havent found any site on the internet wich convinses me their is a planet heading to us or something, nor do many other spiritual and alien theories sound to me as truth.
But I also havent found a single site which puts me to think it cant be true.
The things I read here lack of reasonable thinking. Swami is clearly skipping stuff from shroomism and visa versa, and both of you do not seem to be able to look clearly at your ideas.
Im sorry, right now I cant think straight, so it seems a bit fage what I am trying to tell.
But just realize that you can choose your own truth, and live happily in it, knowing everything is just illusion. Dont try to push it onto others if they do not want to accept it.
Just share your ideas to enlighten people with a new option in their life, not to exclude any.
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: Divine_Madness]
#522334 - 01/16/02 11:17 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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And I forgot to read the last 20 posts or so...
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Re: Nostradamus and The End of the World [Re: ]
#523011 - 01/16/02 11:20 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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beef juice?
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