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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52166 - 08/09/98 05:17 PM (24 years, 11 days ago)

1. it don't matter. case a cake when you
wanna case a cake... although i go with
casing as soon as my jars are fully
colonized, and this has worked the best.

2. what are you using for humidity?
casings do not need as much humidity
as regular cakes do, all you really need
is a terrium to put them in and spray it
with a hand sprayer a couple times a day.
Perlite usually is too much humidity for casings.



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Anonymous

Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52168 - 08/10/98 04:21 PM (24 years, 10 days ago)

Thanks for the response!

I have them in a perlite terrarium. Should I just put them in a rubber container and mist? Do you mist directly onto the top of the casing? Do they just fruit when they are ready or should I cold shock? What is the longest period from casing until fruiting a person could expect? (When do I give up and trash it?)



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52169 - 08/10/98 07:50 PM (24 years, 10 days ago)

Can you just set this jewels right out in the closet? Or do they have to be in a terrarium?


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52170 - 08/11/98 12:04 AM (24 years, 10 days ago)

I would like to know the answer to these questions as well. Also, how much light do you give the casing and when?


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52171 - 08/17/98 08:40 AM (24 years, 4 days ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52172 - 08/17/98 10:56 PM (24 years, 3 days ago)

Will it work if I do separate casing trays (i.e., one cake per casing---if I colonize 6 cakes, could I do six casings?)?
Thanks.

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52173 - 08/18/98 03:32 AM (24 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52174 - 08/18/98 02:00 PM (24 years, 2 days ago)

The tray I'm using for casing is approximately 12"x6" (12"x6" at most). How many cakes would you suggest for this?

Thanks again, and sorry for asking so many questions.

Peace,
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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52175 - 08/18/98 02:10 PM (24 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52176 - 08/18/98 03:57 PM (24 years, 2 days ago)

Do you mist the casing even after it starts to pin? I don't know if this will drown the mycellium? Is a drip shield required?

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52177 - 08/19/98 02:40 AM (24 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52178 - 08/19/98 02:55 AM (24 years, 2 days ago)

has anyone heard of inoculating a casing as you would a cake?


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52179 - 08/19/98 03:40 AM (24 years, 2 days ago)

your main foe in the battle to coloinize your cakes are the members of the mold family. they love to chomp on your grains. i think you'd need to have only a pocket of food-rich substrate in the middle of the casing, as having a food/casing mixture throughout your fruiting pan would be like fly-paper to any wayward mold spore. however, if the substrate were in a ball in the center of the casing pan instead of broken up on the entire layer, then your fruiting surface would be substantially reduced.
i think i'll give it a try though, it could show a more natural way of fruiting--or like if found in the wild. your flushes may not be as plentiful; though your pan may last longer.
...but these are only my thoughts, not to be taken for fact.

hey Ryche Hawk, your casing tek sounds like a real winner. are you using Amazons or Gulf Coasters? i am trying to get a handle on the suttle differences between the two as far as casing goes.



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52180 - 08/19/98 04:31 AM (24 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52181 - 08/19/98 12:46 AM (24 years, 2 days ago)

yes, i think that your crumbling method is the best way to approach casing. by layering the entire bottom of the pan you maximize your fruiting real-estate to it's fullest. this, coupled w/a thinner top casing layer gives the mycelium a quick rise to the surface to pin. i have some "sliced" cakes in several pans that are cased in verm/peat/cal; but the next attempt is going to be with your/white rabbit's approach of total break-up.

as far as the different strains taking to the PF cake, i can only go by my empirical data and the testimony & photo's of others. i have only grown Gulf Coasters and compared to the pics in the gallery, i find that the Amazons dig the cake more than the G/C strain. this is evident by way of massive flushes. my guess is that it's due to moisture--and that casing creates the womb-like, happy-place that the G/F'ers need as encouragement to reproduce.
what do you think?



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52182 - 08/19/98 04:36 PM (24 years, 1 day ago)

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Anonymous

Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52183 - 08/19/98 04:51 PM (24 years, 1 day ago)


Ryche Hawk, Thanks for all the VERY valuable info. you have contributed to this discussion!!!!

How many days from first sight of pinning until the flush takes off?

How do I know what strain I have? I ordered from PF.



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52184 - 08/19/98 05:56 PM (24 years, 1 day ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52185 - 08/20/98 03:05 AM (24 years, 1 day ago)

Ryche:
What kind of cakes du you use?
PF, rye or what....


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52186 - 08/20/98 04:41 AM (24 years, 1 day ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52187 - 08/20/98 09:16 AM (24 years, 1 day ago)

Does anyone think that if you used a tall airproof container the shrooms could grow directly from the container without any external humification (except the occaisional misting)?

Pnyx



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52188 - 08/20/98 02:38 PM (24 years, 20 hours ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52189 - 08/21/98 03:36 AM (24 years, 7 hours ago)

Ryche Hawk, I cased 4 colonized rice cakes in a 8" by 12" rubermaid container. I decided not to cover them over with vermiculite and peatmoss to observe the mycelium growth. When i woke up about 8 hours later I checked on it. It was already covered in mycelium! It seems the strain of cubensis I have is very agressive.

CASING IS THE WAY TO GO;



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52190 - 08/30/98 12:36 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

OK,

I'm currently using the PF cake style settup in a MMGG style styrofoam cooler that's getting humidity from an ultrasonic humidifier attatched to a timer. I am planning on trying casing, and have found that I can fit three 4" X 8" containers in the terrarium. My questions are:

1. Should I still use the humidifier or should I switch to hand spraying? Everything I've read suggests that the humidifier would be too powerful for this settup. Is this true?

2. Should I poke holes in the bottom of the trays to let excess water drain out or does this defeat the entire purpose?



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52191 - 08/30/98 04:53 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52192 - 08/30/98 06:00 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Ryche Hawk, I noticed that you didn't recommend sterilizing the casing material. I've been doing it because I though it was nessasary. Is it?If so have you tried using a microwave to do the job.The instuctions to sterilizing in a microwave just say "sterilize in microwave". Not how long, If you should wet it first, ect. I would like to try this so I don't have to clean out my pressure cooker. Thanks.


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52193 - 08/30/98 04:56 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

My friend has some PF cakes that have flushed a few times. Is it possible to use these cakes?


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52194 - 08/30/98 04:59 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

My friend has some PF cakes that have flushed a few times. Is it possible to use these cakes?


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52195 - 08/30/98 05:04 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

My friend has some PF cakes that have flushed a few times. Is it possible to use these cakes?


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52196 - 08/30/98 05:04 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

My friend has some PF cakes that have flushed a few times. Is it possible to use these cakes?


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52197 - 08/31/98 10:24 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52198 - 08/31/98 01:48 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Re: To Sterilize Peat or No

Sterilizing your peat moss actually increases chances of contamination! The Bible (King Stamets Version) says so:

1. Peat based casings rarely require sterilization because its "acidic condition precludes many contaminants from colonizing it as a substrate." This is the primary reason we add buffering agents like lime, chalk or oyster shell to the casing layer; the effect of these agents is to basify the acidic peat to mushroom-friendly levels.

2. There are high levels of beneficial bacteria which inhabit the casing layer,
resulting in "increased primordia formation, earlier cropping and higher yields." He concludes by saying that "these same bacteria give the casing a natural resistance to competitors. IN THIS RESPECT, A STERILIZED CASING LACKS BENEFICIAL MICROORGANISMS AND HAS LITTLE RESISTANCE TO CONTAMINANTS." (My emphasis.)



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52199 - 08/31/98 04:55 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52200 - 08/31/98 07:57 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

The problem is covered on pp. 129-30 in (you guessed it) TMC. So, I think it's a pretty good idea to sterilize vermiculite, but leave the peat moss well alone!


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52201 - 09/01/98 12:48 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't sterilized my vermiculite and it is doing fine. :smile:


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52202 - 09/02/98 02:23 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks to all who added information to this thread. I just cased last night, and am eager to see the results. The only additions to Ryche Hawks recipe was that I added an 1/8 of a cup of calcium carbonate to my casing mix. I lightly covered with the 50/50 peat and verm (and touch of Calcium Carboante), and put back into a perlite terrarium. The only question I have is about the humidity. Ryche seems to endorse high humidity for the casing, and some others seem to prefer less than normal humidity. Which is right? Also, I would like to know if anyone has cold shocked their casing and gotten better or quicker results. I'm using the PF strain of cubensis. Thanks agian all, and I'll let everyone know of the results. Peace Out.


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52203 - 09/02/98 04:51 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52204 - 09/02/98 08:51 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

i know this thread can't get much longer, but i'd like to suggest this: a combination of the "nemiad" method (innoculating water and then mixing with substrate so the spores are spread evenly throughout the substrate) and casing. basically, sterilize the substrate materials (along with verm for casing and perlite for humitity) as the method instructs and then mix the innoculated water with the substrate material. but instead of putting it into jars for colonization, put the substrate on top of vermiculite on top of perlite, cover with a healthy amount of vermiculite and voila!

if I find out more about the success of this i'll keep you informed



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52205 - 09/02/98 05:33 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52206 - 09/04/98 11:08 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

I will definitely let you guys know. It is
logistically difficult, and should be done in a very sterile environment. you learn a lot
when you try it, so it might take a few times for someone to get it right. i'm fairly
certain a sterile environment is key.


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52207 - 09/05/98 05:46 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Rycke, When you say "crumble" the cakes, do you mean to a fine granular,or to little pea size chunks, or something in between? Also should i do this by hand, rubber gloves?

Sorry i keep repeating, i dont know why its doing that.

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52208 - 09/06/98 04:25 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52209 - 09/09/98 01:32 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

okay, so I idea I had was a total failure, and only managed to produce mold -- there was *no* colonization at all..

that one is for the dumpster



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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52210 - 09/09/98 04:05 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

i used ryche's casing method with peat verm and did not sterilize the casing at all!! i even used bare hands as mixer hehe. ive got very nice 5"ers and many more pinners peeping their little noggins out iinto the new world.
told ryche i would let him know bout this
happy harvesting and happy day!!!
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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52211 - 09/09/98 04:40 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52212 - 09/12/98 11:20 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

This message relates to the method discussed by Ryche Hawk.
Is there a need for drainage holes in the container?
Why is the Peat Moss being used with the Vermiculite? I have read post that claim that using only Vermiculite is the way to go.
As far as a container goes, are those plastic shoebox containers sold in Dollar Stores good to use? The condensation formingon the walls might tend to make the substrate saturated (?????) - a shallow container might not?
Thank you. This is a great "post" for information.


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52213 - 09/12/98 12:11 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52214 - 09/12/98 03:19 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I think I need to actually make a sterile room like Stammets suggests. I just finished harvesting my third crop of cased Dactylum. Argh.


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52215 - 09/12/98 08:31 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52216 - 09/13/98 08:08 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the reply Ryche Hawk.
In regard to the bottom vermiculite layer - together with the casing layer.... is the steam distilled water considered sterile or should it be autoclaved? Also, would steam distilled water for spraying the casing layer be alright or should it be autoclaved also?
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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52217 - 09/13/98 02:38 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52218 - 09/13/98 05:27 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

I read the section of TMC about the acidic state of peat moss precluding the need for sterilization. However, I took my trusty pH meter and checked some sphagnum peat moss straight out of the bag, and it was no more acidic than pH 6. TMC refered to pH 3-4. Perhaps mine was already neutralized at the factory or something like that. Anyway, I'm guessing pH 6 isn't nearly acidic enough to be beneficial. Take from this what you will, but I'm going to be sterilizing my peat moss, at least until I come across some that's actually fairly acidic.


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52219 - 09/13/98 10:51 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52220 - 09/13/98 11:26 PM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Ryche, I would love a copy of your sterilization techs. In fact maybe it should be in teh Find them or Grow them section??


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52221 - 09/14/98 07:57 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52222 - 09/14/98 08:18 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

Ryche Hawk:
The pH scale is from 0 to 14. 7 is neutral. 0-7 = acidic 7-14 = basic. A "1" is a strong acid. A "14" is a strong base.
Well, anyway, could you answer this question:
As long as the bottom vermiculite layer is being sterilized together with the water, could someone mix the 2 together, sterilize in pressure cooker, etc. The sterilized material could be spread on the bottom of the container. I suppose this could be done with the peat moss/vermiculite casing mix also.
I thought this might help in preventing any contamination.
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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52223 - 09/14/98 11:29 AM (23 years, 11 months ago)

hey ryche well ive not had any contams as of yet knock on wood hehe and have tried my first flush of my first attempt last weekend wow. i was beside my self (several x) any ways just wanted to let everone know that i cased useing ryche's method peat/verm with out sterilizeing anything peat/verm/or my hands and everything turned out peachy. remember that this is just an instance of success. this may be unusuall but i post my finding for the big picture.
see yall and thanks for everyones help on my first. next.... rye.
peace love kindess.
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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52224 - 09/15/98 02:39 AM (23 years, 10 months ago)

In my friend's experience rye is very easily contaminated. He has a sterile room and everything so...I bet it would pay off to be extra careful :smile:


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    #52225 - 09/15/98 04:18 AM (23 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52226 - 09/15/98 02:05 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for your sterilization doc, Ryche. Perhaps you should post the text here for everybody. Although be careful if you ever have a blood drug test done, cuz I'm sure they'll think you're huffing Lysol or something with all of it that must be in your system by now :wink:


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    #52227 - 09/16/98 05:51 AM (23 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52228 - 09/16/98 10:04 AM (23 years, 10 months ago)

Hi again!
Could Ryche Hawk or someone give me an opinion on this:
In regard to the cased containers, is putting the container into a container with perlite going to cause the cased container to get saturated? What if the cased container was placed into a container without the perlite?
Would the spraying of the cased layer together with being inside a closed container be sufficient?
I thought I'd check, as I read some post that said their cased tray was "water logged".
Thanks a lot! :smile:


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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52229 - 09/16/98 04:20 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

hiya psth. ive done 1 crop and used ryche's casing method put a couple thin plastic flat flower trays with no holes in bottom for the caseing. i placed these in a large terr with perlite i also invested in a couple cheap thermometer/hygrometers and tried to keep it around 94% humidity. i also got a u.s. humidifier wich im not using for the primary humidifier just as an occasional misting/co2 fluching of the terr. from what ive heard if you can see small droplets of condensation on the mycelium then its a tad bit too much humidity but ive had great success with the perlite/caseing setup
good luck
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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52230 - 09/16/98 08:30 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

I need help with my casing as well,
It has been nearly 2wks since I
put my tray of pan.cyanes in my terrarium
still no "pins".I keep the temp. at
72f to 78f,I have bubbler/hand spray
(2/day) for humidity and fan (2/day).
any one got any suggestions?

I also,have 2 cakes,uncased, one two week
old the other 1 week, and none of those have
"pins" either.
what am i doing wrong?



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    #52231 - 09/17/98 06:56 AM (23 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52232 - 09/17/98 04:56 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the intrest Ryche,
still no pins,
Anyhow I used pasturized straw substrate,
and cased that with 50/50 mix vermiculite
and peat moss.My terraarium is a 42Qt.
coleman cooler with a plexi-glass top
and it seals VERY well.The humidity according
to my cheap gauge is @95% I simply can't
figure it out,this is my second attempt to
grow and so far no luck.I hope you can help,
this can be a time consuming and expensive
hobby with with no results.
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Re: Casing Help...Please!!!!!
    #52233 - 09/17/98 09:15 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

What do you think about recasing?I have about
a 1/4" that is almost completly covered .What do you think about adding another 1/4" and tryimg it agian?
I have 4 more cakes of "cubies" ready I think i'm going to crumble and case these the whole cake thing just will not fruit.
P.S.-I am not using PF spores,I got these from JLF don't know what strain.know anything
about these spores? They germinated and colonized great ,but they refuse to fruit...
Any help would be great.
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    #52234 - 09/18/98 05:16 AM (23 years, 10 months ago)

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    #52235 - 09/03/00 12:23 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I'm doing some research for a meta tek and I thought some of you would like this thread.

So I'm moving it back up to the top of the list :smile:

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