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OfflineMushroomSmoothie
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How Powerful Compared to Cubensis?
    #5215142 - 01/23/06 07:11 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I was wondering for both P. cyanescens and P. azurenscens. It is agreed that these are the two most potent mushrooms on earth right? And second, i'm a very experienced tripper but I've only eaten large doses of Cubies. I also just grew a bunch of bunk cubes on BRF, horrible potency. Well for my next project, I want something a little more advanced and powerful in the end. Thanks guys for all the help


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: MushroomSmoothie]
    #5215145 - 01/23/06 07:12 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

1g of azures was like 3-3.5 cubes. I hear cyans are simillar.


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5215152 - 01/23/06 07:15 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

WOW, that is fucking powerful. Know of any teks for cultivating azures? Couldn't find many, found one but it was shitty. Thanks man


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: MushroomSmoothie]
    #5215448 - 01/23/06 08:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: MushroomSmoothie]
    #5215478 - 01/23/06 08:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Try Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanascens or related species. Ralphster sells a few different varieties for I think $5 more than cubensis. They grow from the same substrate as cubensis, so the tek will be the same (although I think they need to be bulk grown, or at least cased), but they are a little bit more tricky from what I hear. Some argue that copes are more potent than those woodlovers, and they contain some different tryptamines as well, so the trip is slightly different. There is plenty of info in growing these on the Shroomery.

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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: MushroomSmoothie]
    #5215484 - 01/23/06 08:24 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #5215519 - 01/23/06 08:35 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks guys, I just did some reading on the azures and that sounds hard as fuck. I'll go the the copes then i guess, i hear they are quite potent also. Straight PF Tek then to casings with 50/50 would work? I have to check the temp and RH factors too, but those are easy. Thanks guys


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: MushroomSmoothie]
    #5215532 - 01/23/06 08:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

On the Erowid site it says that the psilocybin content of the Copes is HALF of the Azures? Half as powerful then? Psilocin content is pretty much the same for both


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: MushroomSmoothie]
    #5215699 - 01/23/06 09:25 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I really wouldn't trust any official charts for potency.


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5215774 - 01/23/06 09:45 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah.

Potency can really vary depend on what technique is used for growing them. But it gives you sort of an idea.

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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #5216025 - 01/23/06 10:48 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Copelandia mushrooms are as strong a mushroom as anyone needs. It's a beautiful, highly visual experience. Buckle up!  :bowdown:


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: wietstocker]
    #5218482 - 01/24/06 04:38 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

to the rest.


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5218710 - 01/24/06 05:31 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

bluemeanie, is there a big difference between Ps. cyanescens and Pan. cyanescens? Pan. cyans are very powerful right, so powerful where 4 grams would easily do the trick correct?

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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: Atheist]
    #5218794 - 01/24/06 05:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I go out and grab wild azurescens that grow on the beach. I don't know how potent they are compared to cubenis, but I ate 40, and it was pretty intense. I'd probably go to say that they are about 3/2 to double the strength of cubenis from some of the reports i've contrasted.

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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5218863 - 01/24/06 06:05 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

azurescens are more potent than cubensis imho, but more rough on the stomach too (i've pucked everytime i eat the azurescens)


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: Atheist]
    #5219364 - 01/24/06 08:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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SpicyTunaRoll said:Pan. cyans are very powerful right, so powerful where 4 grams would easily do the trick correct?



4 grams of pan cyans is enough to make anyone trip extremely hard. 1 gram should be about the equivalent of 3 grams of cubes.


If I ever get the time to trip again, I want to take 3 grams with some syrian rue. I still have about 1/2 ounce from last years harvest. Woo Hoo :smile: :laugh: :grin: :thumbup:


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5219602 - 01/24/06 08:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

And pan cyans are more easy on the stomach? What are the effects of syrain rue, helps nausea?

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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: Atheist]
    #5219641 - 01/24/06 09:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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And pan cyans are more easy on the stomach? What are the effects of syrain rue, helps nausea?




Not likely. It will probably make me a bit more queasy, but it will double the effects of the mushrooms.

Not for the faint of heart.


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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: nycomyco]
    #5294436 - 02/13/06 11:33 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Beautiful mushroom!!!

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Re: How Powerful Compared to Cubensis? [Re: ralphster44]
    #5832220 - 07/07/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Reached high level 3 on 1g dry cope-cyan (Hawaiian). Reached level 2 on 2 dry grams of cubes. What a diference!!
Crunched them up and ate w/peanut butter. The Copes hit like a ton-o-bricks, the Cubes much lighter trip. Next is combo!!
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