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Jackattack
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Legal non-active mushroom into an active?
#5213656 - 01/23/06 10:24 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im wondering if you can take a non-Psilocybe mushroom and make it grow with something active like DMT? What if i ground up mimosa bark and put it in the substrate would the mushrooms be able to pick it up?
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shirley knott
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Jackattack]
#5214089 - 01/23/06 01:34 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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this subject (addition of DMT precursors to substrate for psilocybes to increase potency) has been done to death in this forum - probably one in every three posts.
it is not possible for mushroom species that do not make psychoactives to be converted into ones that do.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: shirley knott]
#5214202 - 01/23/06 02:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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. . .Unless you could cross an azurescens with a shiitake, or an oyster with a cube. I think it's only a matter of time until someone pulls it off. RR
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5214280 - 01/23/06 02:58 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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something tells me you will be the "someone" who does it RR. 
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shroomydan
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: waixingren]
#5214438 - 01/23/06 03:55 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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It wouldn't solve the legality problem, because no species is illegal. Psilocybian mushrooms are illegal because they are "containers" for psilocybin.
An active shiitake would still be illegal.
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Blek
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: shroomydan]
#5224965 - 01/26/06 05:12 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Illegal in disguise that is
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Sinthetic
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Blek]
#5225398 - 01/26/06 10:10 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hate to burst your buble but if cops find mushrooms they don't care what species it is. They send it to a lab to run a chemical makeup test.
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mycofile
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Sinthetic]
#5225575 - 01/26/06 11:07 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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hate to burst your buble, but if cops found dried shitake in a kitchen cupboard with peanut oil, bean sprouts and rice noodles, right next to a cookbook open to the page of "shitake and bean sprout stir--fry over rice noodles" there would be no tests done.
That doesn't change the fact that this won't be done by simply adding chemicals, it will take genetic manipulation.
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evlovevlove
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: mycofile]
#5247592 - 01/31/06 04:36 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Based on the same logic, storing dried psilocybin mushrooms in your kitchen in a container or bag that says dried porchini would probably be safe as well.
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DinahTheCat
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: evlovevlove]
#5650838 - 05/19/06 04:24 PM (18 years, 4 days ago) |
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Same way if you had regular mushrooms(shiitake as an example) labeled as p cubenesis, the cops would send it to the lab with no + results for banned substances, and i think thatd be funny!
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5651506 - 05/19/06 08:42 PM (18 years, 4 days ago) |
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Sure... And in the meantime you'd have to get booked in, spend several hours in jail, and then either make bail or sit in jail for weeks until the lab results came back. Then they might prosecute you anyways. By labeling the bag like that they might try to claim you intended to sell it as cubensis. A lot of people don't know this, but if you sell 10g of powdered sugar claiming it's cocaine... you get charged, and can do the same amount of time, as if you actually sold 10g of cocaine.
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: fastfred]
#5651674 - 05/19/06 10:00 PM (18 years, 4 days ago) |
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It depends on the person chemical make up (have you read thou Psilocybin Mushrooms of the Wold) an person could eat an kown none Psilocybin (ex Hen of the Woods) making mushroom and trip balls. No you can't make an none Psilocybin mushroom.Make Psilocybin in it unless you put in its growing substrate.The cops will test it and trow you ass in jail.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Brainiac]
#5651744 - 05/19/06 10:35 PM (18 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Brainiac said: It depends on the person chemical make up (have you read thou Psilocybin Mushrooms of the Wold) an person could eat an kown none Psilocybin (ex Hen of the Woods) making mushroom and trip balls. No you can't make an none Psilocybin mushroom.Make Psilocybin in it unless you put in its growing substrate.The cops will test it and trow you ass in jail.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... what?
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Brainiac]
#5651751 - 05/19/06 10:39 PM (18 years, 3 days ago) |
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Brainiac said: It depends on the person chemical make up (have you read thou Psilocybin Mushrooms of the Wold) an person could eat an kown none Psilocybin (ex Hen of the Woods) making mushroom and trip balls. No you can't make an none Psilocybin mushroom.Make Psilocybin in it unless you put in its growing substrate.The cops will test it and trow you ass in jail.
WTF?
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shroomydan
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Brainiac]
#5652401 - 05/20/06 06:08 AM (18 years, 3 days ago) |
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teh spel chkre is you freind
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Brainiac
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: shroomydan]
#5652753 - 05/20/06 09:44 AM (18 years, 3 days ago) |
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if it was my freind would kill them
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whiterasta
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Brainiac]
#5657463 - 05/21/06 06:25 PM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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It depends on the person chemical make up (have you read thou Psilocybin Mushrooms of the Wold) an person could eat an kown none Psilocybin (ex Hen of the Woods) making mushroom and trip balls. No you can't make an none Psilocybin mushroom.Make Psilocybin in it unless you put in its growing substrate.The cops will test it and trow you ass in jail.
Translation; "It depends on a persons chemical make up. Have you read Ps. mushrooms of the world? certain individuals can eat non-psilocybin producing mushrooms and trip balls (example, Hen of the Woods { this is fact! the local pastor had a religious experience on Maiatake!} ) No, you cannot make a non psilocybin producing mushroom make psilocybin w/o putting it in the substrate. The police will test hem as positive and throw you in jail"
It's all good brainiac I got everything you got but in reverse cept the IQ which rolls in around 170 Hyperlexic? Hypergraphic? definately hyperactive  WR
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Edited by whiterasta (05/21/06 06:27 PM)
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whiterasta
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: whiterasta]
#5657494 - 05/21/06 06:36 PM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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A cross with a non toxic near relative could be done easily in a lab and cloned Crossing with a polypore would be much harder and that assumes the genetics for producing psilocybin is confined to a close group of aleles that would transfer together. Manipulating the substrate of other edibles might produce some kind of results .But much depends upon the enzymatic profile of the fungi and if it could be manipulated into producing an active substance from substrate precursors. My first thought on a cross was Enokitake with Pan cyan or Copelandia... WR
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Speeker

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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: whiterasta]
#5658597 - 05/21/06 11:14 PM (18 years, 1 day ago) |
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>certain individuals can eat non-psilocybin producing mushrooms and >trip balls (example, Hen of the Woods { this is fact! the local >pastor had a religious experience on Maiatake!} )
maybe it was the Chicken of the Woods... http://www.evergreen.edu/mushrooms/phm/s66.htm
never heard of Maitake having such an effect.. any reference?
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whiterasta
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Speeker]
#5658636 - 05/21/06 11:23 PM (18 years, 1 day ago) |
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Nah, round our parts sulphur shelves go by their own name and maiatake are called hen of the woods.All I can really verify is when I sit down to a meal of a good sized(dinner plate)portion of lightly steamed or flash sauted. I feel very good like a good turkey dinner X2 WR
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PSiFr33k
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: Speeker]
#5658639 - 05/21/06 11:23 PM (18 years, 1 day ago) |
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YES but if there was some way for the mushroom to develop DMT i dont think it would be illegal in that form with just a tryptomin , just as mimosa bark and banana peels ?
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: fastfred]
#5665917 - 05/23/06 06:33 PM (18 years, 3 hours ago) |
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fastfred said: Sure... And in the meantime you'd have to get booked in, spend several hours in jail, and then either make bail or sit in jail for weeks until the lab results came back. Then they might prosecute you anyways. By labeling the bag like that they might try to claim you intended to sell it as cubensis. A lot of people don't know this, but if you sell 10g of powdered sugar claiming it's cocaine... you get charged, and can do the same amount of time, as if you actually sold 10g of cocaine.
-FF
i've always thought about this tho...
what if you were to make a video tape of yourself gathering a bag of dried shitakes, and while you are putting them in a bag, begin to explain "hello, my name is *insert full legal name here*. Today is *date here* and i am putting these dried mushrooms into a bag. on the bag, im going to label them as illegal mushrooms. i have no intention of selling them and i am only labeling them as such as a joke/protest/ect towards law enforcement officers in case ones ever decided to raid my house. again, i am not going to sell these, nor have i ever sold illegal drugs, ect ect".
if you were to have NUMEROUS copies of this video tape, say for instance in different places, held at people's houses, such as your friend's, family's, whatever, and had a lawyer get ahold of them and also had a copy sent to whoever takes care of evidence. shit, even had it up on numerous places on the internet where people could publicly see these tapes. even send one into the local news station.
would they still be allowed to arrest you for attempt to distribute even though you blatently did it on purpose and made it publicly known?
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shroomydan
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: FleaAccela]
#5666197 - 05/23/06 07:49 PM (18 years, 2 hours ago) |
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They would probably just charge you with interfering with a police investigation or with obstructing justice or something like that.
It would be more fun to take a water bong with some legal herb down to the police station and start doing bong hits on the front steps.
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JSshroom
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Re: Legal non-active mushroom into an active? [Re: shroomydan]
#5666517 - 05/23/06 09:08 PM (18 years, 1 hour ago) |
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I did a burn out in my car on the front steps of our west side police station. I left them a mushroom cloud of burnt rubber. No the idea of screwing with the police sounds like something that I did once on acid. I hate the cops and take all precautions to not be noticed by them.
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