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Offlinefoghorn
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Addicted to Pot?
    #521105 - 01/14/02 11:11 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Am I? i smoke everyday during the hours before i goto bed - sometimes during the day.

The amount i smoke is another story - it may sound ridiculous but i can stretch an 1/8th for 2 weeks+ if its just to myself (low tolerance, i dont get blasted at every session)

Sometimes ill take 'breaks' to prove to myself that im not addicted - like the one i started today - but then after ive proven my point (???) - maybe a week, maybe a month later ill be smoking again.. its like inevidible

last point (yeah my thoughts are all over the place), i like smoking weed, and i dont think anything is wrong with it, which is the kinda reasoning that makes me quit the 'break'
but at the same time i have doubts about it, because im not doing great in school and it has somewhat alienated me from my family

is this the psychological addiction people speak of?

other peoples experiences would be great.. thanks


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #521137 - 01/14/02 11:55 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

For a long time I wondered this too.
I liked weed but always felt kinda guilty, or a little worried about my habit.

I tried to quit a few times. Once I went three months clean.
But I always missed it when I quit. Finally, I quit quiting.

Now, a few years later, I find it's much easier to go without it. I just kinda went though it and came out the other side. Back then, I had more stresses than I do now, and I think I just used it to relax and forget/gain perspective my probs. Medical use almost.

Looking back, I think my apprehesion to the pot habit was mostly social convention. The mainstream said it's bad, and maybe I blamed a lot of probs on my pot use. Now I think that's crap.

Sounds like you don't smoke too much pot. An eighth every two weeks isn't a lot. It's good to challenge yourself and try to resist smoking every time you crave it. Just relax, take a deep breath and blow your tension away. It works sometimes. The times it don't, toke up.

Pot is a gift. For a while I wasn't sure if it was from God or the other fellow, now I'm sure it's from God.


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OfflineBoneyDragon
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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #521138 - 01/14/02 11:56 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

As far as I know, marijuana does not replace any neurochemicals or make you in anyway physically dependent, so you can't get addicted. Yes, you can develop a habit like you can with anything. IMO smoking everyday is way too often, but you can disagree. If you want to stop, you can. It might take some will power, but it is very possible, especially compared to other things.

~BD


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #521166 - 01/15/02 12:29 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

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The last I heard marijuana is not addicitve and never has been. If you try enough you can become addicted to almost anything.......myself I like SEX....


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #521587 - 01/15/02 07:13 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

if you feel that it is interfering with your life/work habits, then perhaps you should re-evaluate your current relationship with this wonderful plant.
challenge yourself, show yourself that you can do well in school and get along well with those that care about you, and still smoke pot everyday.
once you've achieved that, and you are happy with where you are, it doesn't matter one bit whether you are addicted or what-not.

personally, i go on and off: when i have bud, i'll be smoking every day. when i'm dry (no money...) i'll smoke maybe once or twice every few days. so its like 2 weeks in a haze, 2 weeks clear-headed etc.

heh...keeps me balanced.


right now, i haven't smoked for 2 and a half weeks...however this is 'cause i don't wanna relapse and get mono again which i'd rather die than have again...(well i'm not so sure about that...)
it feels nice to take a break. school comes a lot easier, i can think better, more clearly defined thoughts ya know...

peace


p.s. dont take breaks to "prove" you're not addicted. it's dumb. you're gonna keep smoking in the end, so why take a break? i dunno...it's just pointless and proves nothing.


peace


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #522406 - 01/16/02 12:33 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I agree with most of whats been said already. I went through this period in which I blamed a lot of my problems on weed, felt guilty about smoking and wondered if I had a problem. I soon found that this wasn't the case. it was me using weed as the convienant scape goat to make myself feel better about my failures. Dude, you are fine, an eighth every two weeks sounds pretty reasonable to me. I'll go through an eight in two days if I don't pace myself.

A weed habit is like a sweet tooth. It's not going to cause major problems but it isn't exactly physically healthy. You could stop doing it if you really wanted to but why would you want to if it makes you feel good and isn't a significant health risk?

Just remember that its all in your head. Your attitude towards your habit will greatly effect how you feel when you smoke and in general. Just find something that works for you and stop worrying about it. YOU ARE NOT AN ADDICT.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #522699 - 01/16/02 05:21 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

It's only a problem if you think its a problem. no body can answer this one for you.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #522734 - 01/16/02 05:56 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I heard somehere (cant remember) that weed had been classified as a hallucinogen (sp?) and physically addictive. I smoke a lot of weed, on everage probably an 1/8 every 2 days of BC chron. On occasion I will smoke a huge bag with my boys. It seems at times I want weed so bad I cant help but scrape all my bongs and smoking contraptions of resin. Sometimes I want it as bad a cig but sometimes its no prob. Like if I have shit to do I put getting high second and I dont feel I have to have weed now. Sometimes I smoke weed befor I do my shit though (school, work, ect.) and during. Conclusion: Its sure as hell feels like its physically addicting at times but this is after smoking huge amounts of chronic everyday.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #522740 - 01/16/02 06:10 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I forgot to mention, a former friend of mine smoked weed like u described, small amounts everday, and I think this was casue he was very addicted (mentally or not). He had to have weed everday, he couldnt go for half the day without wanting weed. Since he could not afford it at this rate he resorted to pinching from me and another freind. Then stole money from me, I lived with him and he went into my money stash in my room. Me and the other friend confronted him about this and he denied everything. There was, of course, solid evidence prooving he did this and we all knew it yet he denies it and avoids us to this day.

So if u can stop for a few weeks I think ur ok, but if u find urself stealing from friends or family to get it u are addicted in the worst way. The liar, thief way!


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #522783 - 01/16/02 07:10 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

let me start off by sayin' i smoke everyday for the most part, although i am smokin' less these days then i once was, although i am high right now :wink:, although i gotta stop sayin' although.

anyways, i think you should talk to your family more, even if you're a little stoned (if you can get over the paranoia, family's pretty cool :wink:... as for school, if you're passing i wouldn't worry, unless you want to do better - in that case, cut back a little on the herbs.

>is this psychological addiction people speak of?
well, i'd say i'm psychologically addicted - but since everyone has their own definition of the term, you gots to decide for yourself.  i have taken breaks of 8 months before, and various one month +/- breaks as well.  but hey, i like smokin', so i believe i'll keep at it for the time being :smile:


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #522787 - 01/16/02 07:15 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

i believe it is a mental, not physical craving. i can't think of any organic substances that create a physical craving. can anyone name any?


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: COZMKSTRCHLD]
    #522967 - 01/16/02 10:37 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

hey thanks for the input guys.. after reading and thinking it over some i realize im just blaming all my problems on my habit, while not really doing anything to fix my problems.. i sat down and did soem work today and i feel better knowing i tried, so im going to celebrate ;)

yeah.. the 'break' thing is bullshit.. thanks for pointing it out; i know im not addicted


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #522976 - 01/16/02 10:45 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Once again Marijuana is not Physically addicting....I have smoked off and on for 30 years. It was never a problem except when it was unavailable. Then I just quit until I could get more. I have gone months without smoking no problem take it or leave it. I guess it could be just an oral fixation, food makes me fat, cigaretts just make me sick.....Nicotine is THE MOST ADDICTING substance known to man! Anyway......I hope you can suffer through those times without it. Don't try to force it.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #523141 - 01/17/02 02:45 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

psychological addiction is for the weak.

gain some will power.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: COZMKSTRCHLD]
    #523665 - 01/17/02 04:45 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

COZMKSTRCHLD, tobacco.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: Man]
    #524369 - 01/18/02 09:48 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Making an eigth last two weeks isnt that special. I can make ounces last three months. You have to be smart and not flash your weed around, it will disappear in a hurry.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: GringoLoco]
    #524493 - 01/18/02 11:55 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

lets do the math here. Foghorn said he could make an eighth last two weeks. You said you could make an ounce last three months. There are 8/8's in an ounce and 12 weeks in three months. So you are smoking 2/3's an eighth every week. While Foghorn is only smoking 1/2 an eighth every week. Shit Foghorn could make an ounce last 4 months while you would have finished yours in three. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's called math.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: Floydian]
    #524606 - 01/18/02 01:49 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Right now I can smoke an ounce every six months. I need about half a bowl a day to get high. Any more than that, and I feel fried. I used to toke at nights, now I prefer the morning. By the time I'm down from the high, I'm out of the shower and done breakfast, I feel great for the rest of the day. I'm more productive and happy.

MONO! Mono makes people extremely depressed. I know, I have it. I have had it recur thrice and it fucking sucks. The whole time, I believe my throat will close up while I sleep and I'll die. So, I can barely sleep for a week unless I knock myself out on pills.

Perhaps weed helps? I smoked it this year and this is the first time in four years that it hasnt recurred!!! It always occurs in the fall/winter.

But cutting back on the weed is good. I have started smoking three times a week (fri, sat, tues). Then take month-long breaks right before week-long smokefests ;)


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #524740 - 01/18/02 04:01 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

hey, interesting topic. it's not how much you smoke that's a problem, because like everyone says it has a weak (but not nonexistant) physical addiction... so if there are problems they're psychological. because it's ur head we dont know much about it so people make it up the way they want. the _worst_ thing you can do, which someone said, was use it like medecine or think u need it... that's dangerous . thats not the point of mj so if ur thinkin like that its time to stop..
u were saying that u feel a negative impact on your social life.. since it isnt very harmful physically thats the major way weed can get at u. watch out, its not easy to tell if smoking is harming u when its as subtle as weed but it is very easy to ignore and pretend u dont care.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: degenerate_]
    #528959 - 01/23/02 08:59 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

i'm sorry, my weed didn't come with an instruction booklet

i didn't realize i was in violation


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: COZMKSTRCHLD]
    #529049 - 01/23/02 11:38 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

"i can't think of any organic substances that create a physical craving"

you cant be serious


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: sunconscious]
    #529168 - 01/23/02 02:15 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

heh yeah mono blows donkey dick
103 fever for 2 weeks straight with one bitch of a sore throat is possibly one of the worst things that can ever happen to you =)
yeah. it's been about 2 months since i got it, but i still get the occasional fever, and i'm damn fuckin scared i'm gonna relapse.

oh and yeah, aren't all psychoactive substances that we injest organic? doesn't that just mean it only contains nitrogen hydrogen carbon and oxygen or something?


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: COZMKSTRCHLD]
    #529654 - 01/24/02 12:08 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Opium


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: spreadhead]
    #529679 - 01/24/02 12:32 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Coffee

Coca

Methberry

~BD, kidding about the last one.


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #529967 - 01/24/02 08:52 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

be a true freind to weed and join NORML and somke everyday


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: joe666]
    #532760 - 01/27/02 04:58 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I just recently smoked for the first time in over a year (It was fun) . I used to smoke heavily everyday, and needless to say, that eventually took its toll on me. Back then all my friends smoked weed heavily and sence they were always with me I got into the habit of smoking just because it was there and because there was nothing else to do (or so it seemed).

I eventually had to remove myself from that situation because I knew that, that would be the only way I could easily quit smoking. I quit cold turkey though and didin't have any withdraws either, besides depression, but I think that was due more to the fact that I was going through alot of shit and just needed solitude, which my friends coudin't understand, which made it worse, but anyways.... Just do what you feel is right and remember..... Ride the Snake...... =) Peace


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Re: Addicted to Pot? [Re: foghorn]
    #537680 - 02/01/02 09:48 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

It's not possible to become physically "addicted" to hallucinagens. You can become "psychologically addicted" though. Usually this develops because the pot substitutes for some "coping skill" and makes you "feel better". When you realize you feel better when you smoke, you start using every time you feel something unpleasant.

I stopped using weed because it slowed my mind and increases my risk of certain health problems.

My advise----stop using for two months and use other ways of coping...

Try it! You may feel better..........but it will be tough to stop.... especially at first.


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