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OfflineJackattack
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Safe to buy Spores of the web?
    #5189260 - 01/16/06 10:42 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Im kind of paranoid to buy anthing that could be linked to illegal or be house searched for later cause I once ordered xanax of the web from india for my Anxieties and it got confiscated. Wondering the chances of them finding spores through the mail would be? Think I sould risk it?

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Jackattack]
    #5189265 - 01/16/06 10:43 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

It wouldn't matter if they did, because it's 100% legal to order spores in the US unless you're from Georgia or Idaho.

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: String_Theory]
    #5189275 - 01/16/06 10:48 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

or california. and I still got them here safely


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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5189279 - 01/16/06 10:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Okay cool but what are the chances of them seeing it and allowing it but barging into my house a month later with a search warrant?

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Jackattack]
    #5189282 - 01/16/06 10:50 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody is looking at your mail.

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Jackattack]
    #5189289 - 01/16/06 10:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

zero, unless you are in a state where they're illegal.

If a judge actually issued a search warrant because you purchased legal mushroom spores, the reputation of himself and every person between him and you would be seriously tarnished.

And the best part is that everything else in your house that would be siezed in that scenario could not be held against you and you'd be absolved of every crime they found evidence of.

It would just be moronic for them to even contemplate it.


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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Jackattack]
    #5189290 - 01/16/06 10:54 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Okay thanks for the reassurance guys. Ive been wanting to try shrooms for awhile now hoping to find enlightenment.

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5189302 - 01/16/06 11:01 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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And the best part is that everything else in your house that would be siezed in that scenario could not be held against you and you'd be absolved of every crime they found evidence of.




Really? So if they found some hardcore drugs they couldn't charge him for it?

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Jackattack]
    #5189324 - 01/16/06 11:11 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

If I cultivated, I would be paranoid of having spores sent to my house or place of the grow op. Sure, chances are nothing will happen - obviously, people get away with it all the time. But I dont like to take such risks when you dont have to. I would have the package sent to a friend's house or someplace safe and untraceable to you.

You never know if the pigs are mounting some sort of Operation Green Merchant bust but for cubensis cultivators. Might as well protect yourself if you have the means.

I would be surprised if the DEA didnt monitor spore vendors incoming/outgoing mail to either record names/addresses and take note of those who purchase regularly. Nothing has happened so far, but you never know what these pigs have planned over the horizon.

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5189357 - 01/16/06 11:26 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Konnrade said:
And the best part is that everything else in your house that would be siezed in that scenario could not be held against you and you'd be absolved of every crime they found evidence of.




Really? So if they found some hardcore drugs they couldn't charge him for it?




If the search warrant was issued illegally, or the authorities searched without a search warrant, every item they siezed would have been siezed in an illegal search. By united states law, all evidence gathered as a result of an illegal search is made inadmissable by means of the "fruit of the poisonous tree" clause. Esentially, if the search itself was not performed according to law, there is no reason to beleive that anything gathered as evidence was done so legally, and no reason why there may not have been planted evidence.

To protect the innocent, it is impossible to hold any evidence siezed in an illegal search against them. No matter how blatantly illicit the items may be.

But this is only if the search is actually deemed illegal. If for some reason it held up in court, which would be questionable and controversial, the evidence would not be invalid.

Sometimes I wish I was a lawyer :tongue:


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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5189363 - 01/16/06 11:28 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Well if you know your shit then you should go for it. :wink:

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5410039 - 03/16/06 08:08 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I can't find anything on this subject.

I can't find if Im allowed to ask this question.

Is there a shop online that WILL ship spores to California?

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Dankaholic]
    #5410233 - 03/16/06 09:06 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is going to end up closed now, asking about shipment to the illegal states is not allowed. None of the vendors will ship to CA, ID, or GA PERIOD. They would lose their businesses if caught, and I don't think any of them would enjoy that.

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Darkenshroom]
    #5422081 - 03/20/06 11:14 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Do we have anything to worry about?I had a similar question of the safety and privacy of the vendors and of this web site and any information about who we are and or what we say.
basically the information I gathered from this post is that legally a search warrant cannot be issued because spores have been ordered, correct?

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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: Rickster]
    #5422455 - 03/20/06 01:12 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

the government will try to make us think that they follow their own rules, but theyve proven numerous times that they dont.

they can monitor the mail, this message board, the vendors, the net, anything. they cant *legally* obtain the information without a warrant and all that, but they are the law.. remember that. they MADE this internet. it runs on THEIR equipment and their backbone.

if they want you, they will make a reason to get you. its that simple. i bought spores from a shroomery vendor with a credit card and had it shipped to my home address. i was planning on not doing that, but i got impatient. i doubt theyre wasting their time with every person who order spores from sites, but comeon. they arent stupid. they know 99% of spore purchases are gonna be for cultivation.

now say some feds notice a rise in busts with kids on shrooms in a particular area. if its a big enough deal, theyll do their homework. theyll look for traffic and searches and stuff related to shrooms by people in the area. they will legally, or most likely illegally, obtain data from isps and vendors (hopefully shroomery vendors wont do that...) and use that to figure out were this new crop of shrooms is coming from.

once they pinpoint you with their illegaly obtained info, they can then look for a legal way to catch you. then say "oh, we got a noise disturbance and happened to find a shroom farm"

thats how the fuck these assholes do it in america.

i used to be proud to be american too...


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Re: Safe to buy Spores of the web? [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5422622 - 03/20/06 01:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

america=babylon

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