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Phenethylamine?
    #5183924 - 01/15/06 03:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

k.. i kinda feel stupid for asking this but would there be any effect on the final chemical content of psilocybes if one were to add a hallucinogenic phenethylamine to the substrate?


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Re: Phenethylamine? [Re: MyExcuse]
    #5185858 - 01/16/06 01:01 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Perhaps the mycelia would perform the 4-hydroxylation that Shulgin referred to and Gartz first theorized and produce 4-HO-3,4,MDMA (that wouldn't be the actual chemical name).


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Re: Phenethylamine? [Re: MisterMyco]
    #5186793 - 01/16/06 11:54 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i plan to try this with 2c-e i guess.. ill see how it turns out.


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Re: Phenethylamine? [Re: MyExcuse]
    #5186824 - 01/16/06 12:06 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I thought that DMT was the one proposed to have an effect, not phenethylamines..?

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Re: Phenethylamine? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5186887 - 01/16/06 12:24 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

its not just DMT, any tryptamine will get converted into its 4-ho form. just if you add DMT it turns into 4-ho-dmt (which is of course psilocin).

i just have never heard of anything related to phenethylamines. as i stated before, i understand the significant difference between tryptamines and phenethylamines but i was wondering if the mushroom would still do something to the chemical, even if it did just absorb it into its body.


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Re: Phenethylamine? [Re: MyExcuse]
    #5202902 - 01/20/06 02:02 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

No, i don't have prove but it seems quit logical that a phenylethylamine won;t fit a tryptamine "lock".
The enzym cannot grab it and put the OH on.

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Re: Phenethylamine? [Re: darkice]
    #5235444 - 01/28/06 02:11 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, phens are way different in structure than a tryptamine. I don't think anything would happen, but I can't say for sure.

Try it, and tell us if it works... :shrug:


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