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OfflineSactown_Shroomer
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Psilocybe Identification Question (P.I.Q.)
    #5145345 - 01/05/06 11:26 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

A little trick I've been using to id cyans is right after I pick them I grab the cap and gently press the bottom side onto a white piece of paper. I hold it there for about two seconds and lift. So far all of the suspect cyans have left a dark purple mark. Not so much a spore print but rather a dark purple wet spot.

Do you guys think that's enough proof for an identification? Cyans are pretty distinguishable by sight anyway. This just makes up for the margin of error. The Galerina is what I'm trying to weed out. I figure if I were to use this method and it was a Galerina then the wet spot would not show up dark purple. But rather a rusty brown like it's spore color. Am I totally off track?

If this method is safe then it saves a ton of time. I can just take a freshly picked mushroom, press the cap against the paper, and in a few seconds have a positive psilocybe identification. From there I just plop them into a paper bag. When I get home there's no need to remove the caps from all five hundred mushrooms and take spore prints.

Your thoughts and comments please.

Sactown



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Re: Psilocybe Identification Question (P.I.Q.) [Re: Sactown_Shroomer]
    #5149035 - 01/06/06 10:02 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I doubt that is good enough for a positive ID. There are probably a lot of non psilocybes that will give you a purple spot. Hypholomas might, some of which are poisonous, Psatherellas, Agaricus, and probably others may give you purple spot.

It is probably better to think of it as another characteristic of psilocybes
rather that a defining characteristic.


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Re: Psilocybe Identification Question (P.I.Q.) [Re: falcon]
    #5149352 - 01/06/06 11:33 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you. But do those others look anything like ps. Cyanescens?


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Re: Psilocybe Identification Question (P.I.Q.) [Re: Sactown_Shroomer]
    #5149922 - 01/07/06 05:30 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Well, as you already said, the most dangerous and likely confusion would be with galerinas. As the spore print of both species is quite dark but not black, I think the chances of a mistake using your quick-print method are quite real. If one species would have a white spore print and the other jet black, then it might be reliable enough to distinguish between two species. But as it is, I wouldn't rely on this method.


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Re: Psilocybe Identification Question (P.I.Q.) [Re: koraks]
    #5182260 - 01/15/06 01:36 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

experience will get you to the point where you can identify without a spore print.
in my eye, i couldn't mistake a cyan for anything but a cyan.
just my opinion.


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Re: Psilocybe Identification Question (P.I.Q.) [Re: Quankus]
    #5182963 - 01/15/06 10:34 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Quankus said:
experience will get you to the point where you can identify without a spore print.
in my eye, i couldn't mistake a cyan for anything but a cyan.
just my opinion.




same here. once you find a psilocybe. it would be hard to mistake any other mushrooms for active.


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