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    #5179707 - 01/14/06 10:41 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

So anyhoo, my friend wants to bring his laptop to bestbuy to have it "cleaned out" -- they charge $50 to perform something like that. I am very sure that this is a rip off, and want to hook up my friend.

My question is, what does Best Buy actually do? Just spyware, adware, and defrag it and shit? Am I missing anything?

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5179750 - 01/14/06 10:59 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

when i "clean out" a computer, i reformat and reinstall everything from scratch.

i havent had to do that since switching to linux.


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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5179771 - 01/14/06 11:09 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Booooom said:
My question is, what does Best Buy actually do?  Just spyware, adware, and defrag it and shit?  Am I missing anything?




snoop.

Tell him to reformat and reinstall.  and do it with linux while he's at it :smile:


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Re: Best Buy [Re: blink]
    #5179836 - 01/14/06 11:31 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, he isn't savvy enough to remove spyware on his own, I'm not throwing Linux at him yet :grin:

I just took a trip to Best Buy, and an acquaintance from high school is on the geek squad there.. He said that they remove viruses (viri?) and spyware, (with 12 different programs...) They do all sorts of memory tests, hard drive tests, clean the registry, etc.

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5179907 - 01/14/06 11:44 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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I just took a trip to Best Buy, and an acquaintance from high school is on the geek squad there.. He said that they remove viruses (viri?) and spyware, (with 12 different programs...) They do all sorts of memory tests, hard drive tests, clean the registry, etc.





aka..... reformat the hard drive and reinstall programs


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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5183758 - 01/15/06 02:43 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, he isn't savvy enough to remove spyware on his own, I'm not throwing Linux at him yet

once it's set up, linux is far easier to use and maintain than windows.

the best way to clean a windows box is to format it. windows will become irreparably fucked up over time, simply from the way it is designed. the only way to clean it completely, and the simplest way in any case, is to format and reinstall.


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Re: Best Buy [Re: wilshire]
    #5184018 - 01/15/06 04:05 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I still say that someone that uses the computer to write papers, listen to music, and email teachers...and has no idea how to do anything else...is not a good candidate for running linux.  It isn't for geniuses, but.. lots of people that aren't great on computers have grown to know a few things about XP...and are comfortable with the programs they know, and don't want to even try Linux :shrug:

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5184975 - 01/15/06 08:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I still say that someone that uses the computer to write papers, listen to music, and email teachers...and has no idea how to do anything else..

that's all the more reason to use linux. if i was going to get a computer for my completely computer illiterate grandparents to use to do email, web browsing, and a little word processing, i'd get them set up with a linux system. better that then a windows machine that is going to crash, break down, become infected by viruses and ad/spyware, be vulnerable to crackers, have an inane updating system, fragment its file system, and be virtually non-customizable. much better to use a linux system that just works, without any of that nonsense, and never has to be "cleaned out" in the first place. linux is far, far simpler to use than windows if you use the right distro.


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Re: Best Buy [Re: wilshire]
    #5185546 - 01/15/06 10:50 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with everything both of you guys have said, I run Ubuntu, and it is very user friendly, and I love it. But, I also know that most people stick with windows due to fear of the unknown, especially when they are used to windows


I've found it hard to try to convert people

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5185577 - 01/15/06 10:58 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

sometimes I feel like the only person in the world, or at least on the message boards I frequent, who uses Windows everday, and has for years, and doesnt have problems with it.

Strange....


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Re: Best Buy [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5185678 - 01/15/06 11:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Seems to me like you're an educated windows user. It's entirely possible to run windows daily without it falling completely to shit, I did it for years before I switched to linux.

Problem is that it's the people who only want to surf and email that install porn dialers, virii, pop-ups, don't maintain their system correctly. These people are the ones who look to administrators to fix their problems and are perfect canidates for ubuntu installs.

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5187840 - 01/16/06 04:50 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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sometimes I feel like the only person in the world, or at least on the message boards I frequent, who uses Windows everday, and has for years, and doesnt have problems with it.

Strange....




there are more of us out there, we're just afraid of the linux users breaking down our doors and forcing their godly OS on us!

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Re: Best Buy [Re: compman]
    #5188033 - 01/16/06 05:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

unless you have a need for windows-only software or hardware or are are completely retarded with computers, you have no excuse. get with the program and get a real OS. right now.


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Re: Best Buy [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5190534 - 01/17/06 10:16 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
sometimes I feel like the only person in the world, or at least on the message boards I frequent, who uses Windows everday, and has for years, and doesnt have problems with it.

Strange....




I'm in the same boat. The first thing I did when I got my new comp was to reformat, and reinstall everything in a "bare bones" style, using only the programs I need.

I've been using this comp for about 2 years now, and (literally) haven't had a single freeze or crash.


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Re: Best Buy [Re: badchad]
    #5190670 - 01/17/06 11:03 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

windows is a simple, easy to use OS when all that bloatware and factory installed shit from the computer vendor is taken off.

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5191223 - 01/17/06 02:13 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

is linux just as good for running games, like Day of Defeat, HL2, bf2, and newer games, if so, i think i may totally get rid of my windows!!

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Re: Best Buy [Re: supra]
    #5191924 - 01/17/06 05:10 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

No, linux is not just as good for games. Some games have native Linux versions, i.e. Doom 3, Quake 4, the Unreal Tournament series, Medal of Honor, the Wolfenstein games, and Neverwinter.

There's also an emulation-type software called Cedega that will run some Windows games, including HL and HL2 pretty well. Cedega costs money and can be a bitch to set up though.

If the gaming industry supported Linux as well as it does Windows, it would be just as good, but for now, the selection and support of Linux games is quite limited.


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Re: Best Buy [Re: Boom]
    #5193059 - 01/17/06 10:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder how the best buy people would react if you brought in a slackware box and asked them to diagnose it :smirk:


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Re: Best Buy [Re: wilshire]
    #5193258 - 01/17/06 10:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

wilshire said:
unless you have a need for windows-only software or hardware or are are completely retarded with computers, you have no excuse. get with the program and get a real OS. right now.




I agree. If your computer useage solely consists of email, surfing, instant messaging, listening to music, downloading music, and modifing the occasional image or collecting photos from your digital camera...there is no reason not to switch to an easy to use OS like ubuntu.

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Re: Best Buy [Re: abhi]
    #5193261 - 01/17/06 10:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

@wilshire
What distro do you recommend? I just downloaded slackware but ive been too damn lazy to install it. Is there anything better before i start getting my hands dirty?

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Re: Best Buy [Re: SirFrancisBacon]
    #5193264 - 01/17/06 10:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

what is your level of experience with *nix?

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Vvellum]
    #5194074 - 01/18/06 05:17 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Linux support for wireless still sucks IMO, till then i won't be moving over

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Ramlaen]
    #5194555 - 01/18/06 10:54 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

what wireless card do you have?

wireless works great with my linksys wmp54g.

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Re: Best Buy [Re: Vvellum]
    #5195183 - 01/18/06 02:10 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I have no problems with my SMC2632W. Slackware did everything for me during the install.


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