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Icelander
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*will start declaring how I am above any of your posts as I am superior and you are immature and of a lesser intellect as it is effective discussion of ideas*
So true.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Swami
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Re: Bird Flu and God's Will [Re: GulGen]
#5175991 - 01/13/06 10:18 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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This place is more of the "I'm very wise because I believe in a bunch of Eastern philosophy / all-is-one kind of shit" people.
Try to tailor your enlightened trolling appropriately...
Sorry, wrong message board. My bad.
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BlueCoyote
Beyond
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Re: Bird Flu and God's Will [Re: Swami]
#5179062 - 01/14/06 02:30 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really wonder what seperates from g*d or its/her/his will, if g*d is supposed to be all... Tricky. Is it exclusive to conscious and aware beings like humans to deviate, or can it be found on animals, matter or viruses, too ?
Is it that, that the virus is only that dangerous, because it started out of human conditions (squeezing chickens in narrow places) ? Are there 'naturally' evil viruses, which were not risen by humans ?
swams, good approach
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Bird Flu and God's Will [Re: spud]
#5179071 - 01/14/06 02:34 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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spud said: Did you just read Candide or some shit?
This thread would be interesting if I was 12.
Hoho, then you are not allowed here, you under twelve-ling
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Lakefingers
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#5179087 - 01/14/06 02:40 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Diploid
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Re: Bird Flu and God's Will [Re: BlueCoyote]
#5179089 - 01/14/06 02:41 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are there 'naturally' evil viruses
Viruses, like the rest of nature, are neither evil nor good. They just act according to their particular evolutionary niche in the natural order of things.
But I think you meant to say "harmful to humans", not evil?
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Diploid
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Re: Bird Flu and God's Will [Re: Lakefingers]
#5179113 - 01/14/06 02:50 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's to say, that there has always been a similar amount of cases of bird flu as, they had little or no media attention previously, and the media has turned it into a possible epidemic
It's the CDC and the WHO (World Health Organization) that are warning us, not the media.
This problem was largely created by the Chinese who started treating their poultry with anti-viral drugs against WHO guidelines. They denied doing this until they were caught red-handed and forced to admit what they were doing. Recall they've done this before when they covered up the first cases of SARS which almost lead to an epidemic.
Due to Chinese government incompetence, the virus has evolved resistance to almost all the available anti-viral drugs and a mutation that is human to human transmissible is a very real possibility. If that happens, a lot of people will die.
-------------------- Republican Values: 1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you. 2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child. 3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer. 4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Bird Flu and God's Will [Re: Diploid]
#5179141 - 01/14/06 02:59 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Are there 'naturally' evil viruses
Viruses, like the rest of nature, are neither evil nor good. They just act according to their particular evolutionary niche in the natural order of things.
But I think you meant to say "harmful to humans", not evil?
Yes, as this is the definition of 'evil'. I think of viruses, who grew up in the rainforest, for example, and then go onto their rage on humans. Are they less evil then viruses who develop themselves in 'human conditions' or influenced by humans. I want to go for swamis statement as he indirectly asks, what is that, what seperates from g*d's will ?
I think we can agree, that humans are somehow capable of this. What are the roots and what are the consequences and what can one do about ?
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