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fuck that postanaldrip, it seems like everyone thinks that im real sad and shit but not really, its just ridiculous to have to go to school like slaves and yes i am lazy as hell, what am i going to do...hmmm.... dont do shit that i hate, since that is what i think lazyness is. im not going to do shit that i dont feel is neccesary. if any of you are thats pretty weak of you
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hairs
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 Re: ive had enough  [Re: hairs]
#517934 - 01/11/02 10:22 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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also, postanalsick, what you consider succeeding is not what everyone does, if you believe that succeeding is making money and acting like how society thinks is correct then i feel sorry for you, id like to know what you think succeeding is, there is only one obvious answer
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ArchDruid
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 Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#517945 - 01/11/02 10:33 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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First of all hairs, insulting those who mean to help you will get you nowhere.
second, if your not willing to work for you liberty then you dont deserve to have it, you have to earn it, but I understand it's just your age(or maturity level, no insult intended) you'll learn that sooner or later, hopefully sooner.
Stealing to abtain liberty would pervert the peace that you find, and there would be none anyway. Trust me from personal experience crime is not the way, If you work your ass off like I said for maybe even as less as 6 months, you would appreciate that freedom even more. You would feel a pride that you had earned it. You cannot replace pride in ones accomplishments with anything in life, that doesnt mean that posessions you amass.
But hey your young, and probebly aint going to listen to anything we say anyway, you have to live your own life. So do it, learn your own lessons, but listen carefull to what I say because is it's a hard road to learn those lessons if you dont learn them soon, you'll be paying for it the rest of your life (that you will waste), and wasting your life is the worst thing you can do.
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emptyvessel
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If school is the major thing troubling you, why don't you drop out and home school? My mom gave me and my two sisters the choice of deciding weather we wanted to go to school or not, and so that's what i've been doing my whole life, I'm eighteen now. And all I've had to do is take an equivalency test every couple of grades or so to make sure I was on the road to becoming a proud american consumer. you'll have tons of extra time on your hands to do whatever, which I think is one of the many reasons why schools exist (to keep children in bondage) and you won't have to deal with all the social bs that goes on in highschool. Or you might not even need to home school at all, just take the GED and be done with highschool all together. Anyways just some thoughts.
Just remember bro, nothing in this world is permanent so if you're feeling depressed remember that it will get better, just let yourself be depressed without trying to fight it. Same goes for when you're feeling good, eventually it will pass, let it. Don't get attached to any state, doing so will only cause yourself suffering. flow with life and all it's oscillations.
Peace.
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Aludyd
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 Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#517976 - 01/11/02 11:03 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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You need to stop idealizing
do you think you can just sit around have nothing required of you and yet expect things in return, such as food,shelter,respect
Now schooling is the process of learning how to achieve those things in your own way.
Do you think any human being in history has ever gone their entire life without having to do things they dont enjoy?
Anyways in short stop being a worthless peice of idealistic lazy scum.
Welcome to the machine
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Re: ive had enough [Re: ArchDruid]
#517980 - 01/11/02 11:07 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont think running away would cure 'life' ... once you get there you will relize its just the same old thing, except it got a new appearance. However, who knows? Im not one way or another, i have thought about the same thing before. Dont let rules intimidate you. You are a free person, dont worrya bout your parents either. Once you're gone they are out of hte picture, do only if you plan on getting caught do you gotta worry about them. If you were to go i would suggest gettingalot of shit done before hand, because you need to think about how you will survive. Depending on where you go and all matters, but its not all like here, you wont be able to run out of food, and money...then make an international call to your parents for a ticket back all the time. Alot of countries allow people who are in a bind to sit there losing energy from walking the whole way to whereever in search of a way for things to get better to die, die of starvation, sickness, wounds, and more. Think about your life before you really decide what to do. It sucks no matter what if you think it sucks now, you need to change your attitude, not your surroundings. Its never too late to do well, it just requires more and more effort the longer you wait.
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postanaldrip
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Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#518062 - 01/12/02 12:38 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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"also, postanalsick, what you consider succeeding is not what everyone does, if you believe that succeeding is making money and acting like how society thinks is correct then i feel sorry for you, id like to know what you think succeeding is, there is only one obvious answer"
Actually, material items dont mean much to me, and certainly dont represent success in my eyes.
My goals in life are to provide unconditional love to as many people as I come in contact with, always stay optomistic, and be the best possible person I can, not only for my sake but for everybody elses.
To what degree I follow through with these goals is what I consider to be success. Thus, the more effort I put in, the more successful I will become.
Essentially, achieving any goal that you have set for yourself is what I consider success.
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postanaldrip
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Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#518084 - 01/12/02 01:12 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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"fuck that postanaldrip, it seems like everyone thinks that im real sad and shit but not really"
Reread the first two sentences of your original post and tell what conclusion im supposed to draw.
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hairs
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yeah i said that sschool is the cause of the majority of my unhappiness
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Aludyd
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 Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#518596 - 01/12/02 03:33 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hairs you dont know what you want.
Heres my adivce
move to somalia and you will soon figure out you want food and will do anythign to get it.'
Now stop your whiny bitching about how you hate school and life.
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Swank
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Re: ive had enough [Re: Aludyd]
#518727 - 01/12/02 06:24 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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When you start a society, it usually begins with a few people, one responsible for finding food, the other shelter, and another for clothing. Once these basic NEEDS are met and the population begins to grow, new advancements are made (ie better fabric for clothing, the discovery of fire for cooking and craft-making, etc.). As these advancements grow increasingly more large and vast, the essential needs (food, shelter, clothing) become taken for granted, seen only as the raw materials used in the making of bigger, better, things known as WANTS.
America is known as a more "advanced" country (compared to a third world country) precisecly because of this point. It can supply many more wants and needs to many more people in its population than some poor country could ever possibly hope to. Escaping to a "pre-history of convenience" (which is the name we'll give these poor countries in this argument) would serve, it seems (at least following this logic), merely to subject you to a lower level of comfort without really solving anything except perhaps satisfying some wanderlust.
And I think you're going to have to realize, sooner or later, that "not doing things you hate" is not a noble pursuit, in fact it is most ignoble, and seems to betray a certain sentiment of taking things for granted (not making accusations here, just food for thought).
Would your parents forget you if you ran away, by the by?
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SherlockDrubu
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Re: ive had enough [Re: Kid]
#518755 - 01/12/02 07:03 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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>>So, you're a lazy fuck. Why don't you do something about it?
I totally agree. I was the same way and had the same feelings about a year, year and a half ago.
Sacrifice shit like smoking bud and drinking until later, and spend time on getting an education. If you really don't feel that you can cut it (which I did, but now I know I can do ANYTHING I try, I get almost strait A's now) try taking vocational classes at your school. This should get you skilled in certain work (maybe mechanical or something) that you can use as a permanent job.
Good luck man, hope the feelings pass.
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SherlockDrubu
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Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#518761 - 01/12/02 07:12 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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>>>first of all, i would take the money out of my bank account, but since i am a minor i dont have access to it
Hmmm... if it is YOUR savings account, and you put money in it, you should be able to take it out. I have access to my savings account that I wasn't supposed to be able to touch without parents permission, but fuck that, I put my check in there so I can take my money out. Try having a picture ID or something...
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postanaldrip
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Re: ive had enough [Re: Swank]
#518774 - 01/12/02 07:34 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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How do you define your own success, hairs?
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hairs
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happiness
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Swami
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I get almost strait A's now
Except for English...
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too_many_weirdos
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 Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#519274 - 01/13/02 09:41 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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hairs, about a year to 2 years ago, i was feeling and thinking the exact same things you are now.
I just wanted to leave, go live a simple life, be happy, not have to worry about anything
I thought i could do it
One thing you have to realize is that it's just not that simple.
Nothing in life is so simple
You can't just run away and expect everything to be happy frappy.
What about your parents? don't they love you? don't you love them?
what about the life you'll be leaving behind?
However, i'm not going to lecture you, because i know you will realize all of this yourself eventually.
Step back and look at your life. Look at what you want and what other people expect of you. Look at the world. Look at other people's experiences.
You can decide to be content and free right where you are.
Running away won't help you. It's the easy way out, and you're just gonna end up in a rut
It takes hard work, effort, and faith, but you can find your meaning here and be free. It's not easy, but it's the only solution to your "problems"
take some time off from life and really consider what you're about to do.
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hairs
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i could care less whats expected of me, i love my mom she loves me and shit, i could easily leave this life behind me, and i would take some time off but since i have done so, so much already, i will get truancy fines.
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#520801 - 01/14/02 06:52 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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My girlfreind did exactly what your planning. It worked out for her.
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 Re: ive had enough [Re: hairs]
#521171 - 01/15/02 12:34 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't get attached to any state, doing so will only cause yourself suffering. flow with life and all it's oscillations
i just had to restate that comment. it is quite true and should be taken very seriously.
if you really are going to go through with this, you need to be organized and have a plan. do not just up and leave one day. i tried that, just snuck out the back door, hopped the gate, and started walkin down the streets with a sack on my back and a few bucks in my pocket. of course within a few days i decided i really did not want to go through with that course of action. as stupid as it may sound (cause i know that if i would have read this a few months ago i'd say it was stupid), you can to some extent control the depression and sadness. even if bad shit is going down, find something that can clear your mind. for me, talking with my close friends helped me through times where i was at the end of my wits and ready to die. i was almost driven to kill myself, but i thought, "why should i do that..? if i feel so miserable right now, i'm pretty sure it can't get much worse." so i made the descision to ride it out and see where life will take me.
you have to be realistic as well. don't think that the second you step out that door all your troubles will disappear. as others have previously stated, new hardships present themselves all the time. it will be hard work to go through such a drastic move and setting up your new life wherever you may end up will also be difficult. i wish you the best of luck in either case, no matter what your final decision is. do what you want, but be decent enough to not infringe on others or hurt them in/directly.
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