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    #5162683 - 01/10/06 01:13 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5163505 - 01/10/06 04:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Good deal. When the Powermac goes dual core Intel I'll be on it.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5163616 - 01/10/06 04:59 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

so, does this mean a pc could run the new x86 OS X? whats the word on that?

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    #5164284 - 01/10/06 07:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5165363 - 01/10/06 11:10 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Cool, so now you don't need a PPC distro in order to put Linux on a Mac.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Vvellum]
    #5166544 - 01/11/06 08:43 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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bi0 said:
so, does this mean a pc could run the new x86 OS X? whats the word on that?




it already is possible, hacks are on the net, google for them.
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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5166583 - 01/11/06 09:03 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

> Maybe one day we will have standardized architectures and frameworks

As long as monopolies, such as Microsoft's, continue to dominate the industry, there will be no standardized architectures or frameworks.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Seuss]
    #5167090 - 01/11/06 11:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Not to get in a fight about whether Microsoft is the evil empire or not, it seems to me that if it was a TRUE monopoly, we WOULD have standardized architectures and frameworks...

ala Ma Bell saying back in the day "You can have any color telephone you want, so long as its black".

But, a monopoly is NOT in place, so we have all these competing formats and such, however you feel about that.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Vvellum]
    #5168604 - 01/11/06 06:03 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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so, does this mean a pc could run the new x86 OS X? whats the word on that?




If you mean booting to a Mac OS X disc & installing it on a bare hard drive on a pc (the same procedure you would normally do with a Windows disc),as of right now, no. The hardware requirements are still going to be Apple proprietary (specifically the motherboard & possibly the optical drive). You can run OS X & older mac os on your pc through other software or emulators. I have done it on my pc & it works but there are limitations.

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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: BigGameHunter]
    #5168628 - 01/11/06 06:09 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Apple is going to be a force to reckon with, their rebirth has been phenomenal


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: BigGameHunter]
    #5170655 - 01/12/06 02:55 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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bi0 said

so, does this mean a pc could run the new x86 OS X? whats the word on that?




If you mean booting to a Mac OS X disc & installing it on a bare hard drive on a pc (the same procedure you would normally do with a Windows disc),as of right now, no. The hardware requirements are still going to be Apple proprietary (specifically the motherboard & possibly the optical drive). You can run OS X & older mac os on your pc through other software or emulators. I have done it on my pc & it works but there are limitations.




Actually, google it. There's been a way to instal OSX on intel systems for quite some time now.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer *DELETED* [Re: Seuss]
    #5173234 - 01/12/06 05:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5174109 - 01/12/06 08:38 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I used to be on the intel bandwagon but then I heard about their new 'trusted' architectures. Security? Thats not what the new architecters are for, they are for DRM software, etc.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: ThePredator]
    #5191142 - 01/17/06 01:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I say congrats to Apple for dropping IBM and joining Intel - afterall Intel have been pioneers in manufacturing energy-efficient short pipeline architecture processors- ideal for the likes of the MacBook. Think the name is a bit shite though - probably an attempt at a publicity stunt. Certainly the future looks bright for Apple.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #5407035 - 03/16/06 02:48 AM (18 years, 7 days ago)

Anyone have a chance yet to use the new Intel-based systems? I'm wondering what peoples thoughts are on their performance. Anyone have links to benchmarks and other such reports?


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Dragonaut]
    #5407088 - 03/16/06 05:22 AM (18 years, 7 days ago)

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If Intel and AMD are producing processors that are what all operating systems are based upon, then voila! The Apple developers and crowd will no longer be working on PPC based software or hardware development. Thus all of that productivity will be focused on x86 - type processors. I see this as a good thing.




I agree with the good thing. However, imagine if AMD wasn't around and Intel had no real competition... things would most likely be a lot different.

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Frameworks are another story. With Microsoft shoving their .NET trash down everyone's throat, Cocoa barely has a chance.




Unfortunately, correct... though I cannot yet decide if I like Cocoa or not. My STL code easily outperforms my Cocoa code... and the Cocoa library is really missing some key ADTs. However, IB is awesome and the integration of Cocoa into the dev tools is outstanding... plus using bindings turns a 200 line program into a 5 line program (literally). I haven't used .NET, so I can't fairly judge it... however, based upon it being a MS language (granted, it was stolen from Sun Microsystems)... and seeing how MS has slaughtered other languages, I suspect your adjective of trash is probably apropos.

> Anyone have a chance yet to use the new Intel-based systems?

Yes. I was using it well before it was released to the public.

> I'm wondering what peoples thoughts are on their performance.

From the user standpoint, it is no different than any other Apple computer... certainly faster than the Power PC, but such is to be expected. The only things I really miss are the RISC intruction set and the Altivec instructions. I hate trying to read Intel assembly... it is so... messy... and I love altivec compared to MMX/SSE/SSE2. For most developers, this won't really matter at all... they should be using the accelerate framework rather than hacking the assembly directly.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Seuss]
    #5410023 - 03/16/06 08:04 PM (18 years, 7 days ago)

in case no ones heard, you can now run XP on a new core-duo Mac.
I think the download was released today, available to the masses

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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: funkymonk]
    #5411389 - 03/17/06 05:22 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

> in case no ones heard, you can now run XP on a new core-duo Mac.

I can spread shit on bread and call it a shitwitch... doesn't make it right.


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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: funkymonk]
    #5412064 - 03/17/06 10:01 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Why anyone would want to do that is beyond me....

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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: funkymonk]
    #5412299 - 03/17/06 11:12 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

can you run the new MAC OS on regular computers now, will i be able to set it up so i can dual boot like windows/linux?

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    #5414683 - 03/17/06 10:39 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

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Re: First Intel Based Apple Computer [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5417723 - 03/19/06 12:12 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

now i just hope they start making all games compatible with OSx now :smile:


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