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dicaryotic - what's that about?
    #516245 - 01/10/02 11:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Er... Hi.

I hope you can help me further... what is this monocaryotic/dicaryotic issue about? Is it possible, that I have monocaryotic micelia growing in my jar, and it wont fruit? How can I tell? what are the consequences? And the conditions of the possibility of this problem? And what is this all about, anyway?

Thanks for answering.


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Re: dicaryotic - what's that about? [Re: Siphersh]
    #516615 - 01/10/02 08:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

>Er... Hi.
Hi.
>Is it possible, that I have monocaryotic micelia growing in my jar, and it wont fruit?
Yes.
>How can I tell?
It won't fruit.:)
>what are the consequences?
No fruit.8)
>And the conditions of the possibility of this problem?
It would happen if you innoculated a jar with just 1 spore (not likely, unless it was a VERY dilute syringe)
>And what is this all about, anyway?
Spores are monokaryotic, ie they have 1 nucleus and produce monokaryotic mycelium. 2 sexually dissimilar monokaryotic mycelia have to fuse together to produce dikaryotic mycelium (2 nuclei) in order to produce fruit.
You see?


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Re: dicaryotic - what's that about? [Re: Siphersh]
    #516634 - 01/10/02 08:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The fuzz of two spores come toghether to become dikaryotic.
No monokariotic myecelium can fruit.



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Re: dicaryotic - what's that about? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #518235 - 01/12/02 07:53 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Senk yer, senk yer for ye veiry nice answer, veiry nice, rily, I bet you're not American...

Both of you thanks.

One thing more: if I have a dicaryotic micelium, and make micelium water of it, and I inoculate with that, can it become monocaryotic?

That would be nonsense, right?


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Re: dicaryotic - what's that about? [Re: Siphersh]
    #518585 - 01/12/02 05:18 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

No dikaryotic, mycelium does not become monokaryotic until it has produced spores. The spores woul be monokaryons when they germinate.
Sometimes you can get false matings of monokaryons, and these dikaryons are unable to fruit.


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