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PookztA
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does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency?
#4910774 - 11/08/05 07:29 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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i know shrooms grown on poo are more potent... but recently i spawned some BRF jars to poo, and had a great first time cultivation. i gave 2 separate friends two eights of the shrooms (strain unknown), and they claimed to have no effects?! now i dont believe them, maybe they tripped recently or were drinking, but does BRF spawned to poo make any significant difference in potency than if it is WBS spawned to poo?
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jarroddupont
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: PookztA]
#4910806 - 11/08/05 07:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've no complaints with spawning BRF to Poo
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Edited by jarroddupont (11/08/05 07:38 PM)
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: jarroddupont]
#4910851 - 11/08/05 07:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow thats dissapointing to hear about the potency, i was just about to spawn brf to poo and case it in a tub... did you case yours? what grow tek did you use? thanks
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PookztA
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: dubbyah]
#4910875 - 11/08/05 07:53 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya man i spawned BRF cakes to little trays to be cased, and i put 5 cased trays into a larger tub for my fruiting chamber. i havent eaten the shrooms my self yet, i will be eating my first home grown shrooms on THURSDAY i am so excited! but i helped some friends out with my first fruits before i ever got to try them my self, just to see how they would do, and these fools are telling me they didnt trip, barely at all! i cant wait to eat my 8th and check for my self! maybe their's were not completely dry yet, and the 3.5g was more like 2.5 or 2.0 dry? who knows, i will make sure to post my trip report of my first labor's fruits on thursday night, after my trip! unknown strains, either GT or Creeper or Ecuador maybe, not sure... i didnt label jars lol
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jarroddupont
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: dubbyah]
#4910893 - 11/08/05 07:57 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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1/2 pint brf to 1/4lb dry (before field capacity) in breadpan, covered with saran wrap
let colonize at room temp, case with straight verm..patched after a bit of overlay, misted and fruited..
RH = ??? No humidity gauge Temp = 71.2F FAE = 3 times a day for 90-180 seconds each Strain = Mexi-cube Flushes = 3
(stats from first casing, 1st grow) No real tek, just kinda, did it, ya know?
Didn't find this to be too hard and have 2.5-3 lvl trip from 2 grams
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Edited by jarroddupont (11/08/05 07:58 PM)
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: jarroddupont]
#4910918 - 11/08/05 08:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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i thought no matter what, poo increases potency?
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mskip23
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#4911073 - 11/08/05 08:28 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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when did u pick them right before sporulation begins (veil still intact) or after reaching maximum size/weight (caps opened)?
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: jarroddupont]
#4911099 - 11/08/05 08:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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How did you like those Mexi Cubs Jarrod?
And poo definitely DOES NOT DECREASE potency. More nutes, more "N", more potency. Poo has way more nutes than BRF.
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jarroddupont
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: FooMan]
#4911131 - 11/08/05 08:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mexi-cubes are FIRE man...
Colonize speed is ok...but spawn runs are HELLA fast, nice visuals, both fresh and dried... it might be the strain, maybe the poo, maybe because the poo is AGARS MYCO-NITRO... but w/e it is, I love them, and will continue my 'studies' with this strain for a while..
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: jarroddupont]
#4911211 - 11/08/05 08:57 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seems that everyone has gotten their hands on that stuff except me! Oh well, I'll just stick to my straight poo! Hasn't done me wrong yet!
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: FooMan]
#4911337 - 11/08/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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to case to poo. you crumble the cakes then cover in poo then cover it all with saran wrap. Once its colonized then fruit right. How much poo to cake mix>?
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jarroddupont
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: tuscani]
#4911340 - 11/08/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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2:5 spawn:poo
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: jarroddupont]
#4911364 - 11/08/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sometimes a flush of mushies is just bunk. Let them go for a second flush and the same tray might send you to the moon. I have no idea why, it's just the way things are. It happens to all of us sooner or later. It wasn't the manure. RR
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#4912350 - 11/09/05 02:19 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
Sometimes a flush of mushies is just bunk. Let them go for a second flush and the same tray might send you to the moon. I have no idea why, it's just the way things are. It happens to all of us sooner or later. It wasn't the manure. RR
so very true!~
it just happens.
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: FooMan]
#4912392 - 11/09/05 02:54 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: And poo definitely DOES NOT DECREASE potency. More nutes, more "N", more potency. Poo has way more nutes than BRF.
Dung contains more nitrogen than brown rice, yes.
Dry cow dung containing 10% of water has the following composition: (source, PDF)
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Moisture Organic material N P2O3 K2O 0.10 0.860 0.023 0.012 0.006
0.023(2.3 %) Nitrogen is equivalent to 14.6 % protein (source) .
Brown rice contains 'only' 8 % protein.
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Anno
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: Anno]
#5153401 - 01/08/06 08:05 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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When dung is prepared for use as mushroom substrate though, much of the nitrogen gets washed out during the leeching and the subsequent pasteurization in hot water. It is difficult to give an exact number on how much this is, but the nitrogen content of dung could diminish considerably.
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: Anno]
#5153411 - 01/08/06 08:15 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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First things first, Jarrod nice to see you around. I haven't seen you on here in a long fucking time.
I have been having the same problem with my poo. My potency is shit. I ate 6 grams and had a mid level 3. I have had 3 flushes off of it so far and they all have the same effects. I don't know what the problem is but I am hoping that my next grow with a different strain will do the trick.
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: kungpow]
#5153619 - 01/08/06 10:17 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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kungpow said: First things first, Jarrod nice to see you around. I haven't seen you on here in a long fucking time.
Have a look at the date of his post.
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kungpow said: I have been having the same problem with my poo. My potency is shit. I ate 6 grams and had a mid level 3. I have had 3 flushes off of it so far and they all have the same effects. I don't know what the problem is but I am hoping that my next grow with a different strain will do the trick.
Are you giving any thought to your drying/storage methods, and what is in your stomach before you eat the shrooms?
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: _OttO_]
#5153647 - 01/08/06 10:27 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn your right about the date on that post. I didn't realize it was that old. But I guess he is sort of gone for a reason. He was always nice to me but I guess he was an ass to alot of ppl. Check his ratings.
And not to steal this guys thread or anything but I believe that my drying/storage methods are fine. I dry with a fan for 3 days and then I store in a ziploc bag in my dressor. I also make sure that I don't eat anything all day before I dose. I usually eat my shroomies around 1 or 2 pm. I do this because I don't really have to starve all day. Just wake up at 11 pack for my trip and eat em. I've tried tripping at night too but I don't care for it because my eyes hurt. But thanks for the suggestions.
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Re: does BRF cake spawned to poo lower potency? [Re: kungpow]
#5153666 - 01/08/06 10:35 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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kungpow said: Damn your right about the date on that post. I didn't realize it was that old. But I guess he is sort of gone for a reason. He was always nice to me but I guess he was an ass to alot of ppl. Check his ratings.
Yeah I do believe he was banned... correct me if Im wrong.
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kungpow said: And not to steal this guys thread or anything but I believe that my drying/storage methods are fine. I dry with a fan for 3 days and then I store in a ziploc bag in my dressor. I also make sure that I don't eat anything all day before I dose. I usually eat my shroomies around 1 or 2 pm. I do this because I don't really have to starve all day. Just wake up at 11 pack for my trip and eat em. I've tried tripping at night too but I don't care for it because my eyes hurt. But thanks for the suggestions.
Then it is just a case of a bunk flush then... Better luck next time...
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