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The most simple pan cyan tek
    #5149195 - 01/06/06 10:35 PM (19 years, 15 days ago)

What is it for a novice.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: jtseaweed]
    #5149235 - 01/06/06 10:49 PM (19 years, 15 days ago)

this one seems pretty simple, i made a couple jars but with rye flour yesterday.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5140518/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: smarties]
    #5149253 - 01/06/06 10:52 PM (19 years, 15 days ago)

Why can I not see the link? Is it because i'm different? Is this some sort of hate crime? Just Kidding.... but seriously?


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Erickson]
    #5149259 - 01/06/06 10:54 PM (19 years, 15 days ago)

not sure why, but its in grow logs and pics, titled attack of the clones.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: smarties]
    #5149278 - 01/06/06 10:58 PM (19 years, 15 days ago)

I don't get that forum... Is it shroomery policy not to let the noobs in? Cuz that's a great idea, until your a noob.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Erickson]
    #5149354 - 01/06/06 11:35 PM (19 years, 15 days ago)

Anyone?


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Erickson]
    #5149381 - 01/06/06 11:42 PM (19 years, 15 days ago)

wait have you ever grown anything before ? like cubes ?


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #5149477 - 01/07/06 12:18 AM (19 years, 14 days ago)

Look on the bottom of this page for the title....JUMP TO...from there you should be able to go to grow log and pic.

Yea I looked at that thread...
Waylitjim,,,has done an EXCELLENT job on them!


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: kiss]
    #5149492 - 01/07/06 12:23 AM (19 years, 14 days ago)

people who dont have a certain amount of posts or who havent been registered long enough are unable to see the growlog forum.  Sorry, dont know the requirements offhand, but just stick around and post and you'll gain access to it soon :smile:


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: coda]
    #5149517 - 01/07/06 12:34 AM (19 years, 14 days ago)

Really...I didn't know that!
But I did get a taste of that with the Vet. Lounge.
i've been here just as long as Anno, babyhitler, and the like, but I've since switched names afew times, and computers also...so I know the feeling.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: kiss]
    #5149894 - 01/07/06 05:08 AM (19 years, 14 days ago)

The most simple way is to use just hay.
This tray fruited in 4,5 weeks.
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001569lh.jpg

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5149906 - 01/07/06 05:16 AM (19 years, 14 days ago)

Here is a picture 6 days after inocculation with multispore LC.(the strain vendors use(d)to call Pan Tropicalis. On the bottom of the microbox I put some Vermiculite to avoid standing water there. Between the surface of the hay and the lid I placed folded parts of aluminiumfoil to keep the hay pressed together.
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001580vd.jpg
A picture of another microbox. When I opened the lid I saw that a small part was not yet colonized. So I cased only half of the surface.
http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001570ht.jpg

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5149915 - 01/07/06 05:21 AM (19 years, 14 days ago)

Two more pictures of the box with the hals casing. Before mushrooms appeared in the casing layer, shrooms grew in the Vermiculite layer at the bottom of the microbox.
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001553xi.jpg
http://img425.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001560wa.jpg

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: kiss]
    #5149917 - 01/07/06 05:22 AM (19 years, 14 days ago)

LOL, Hell..... I cannot gain entry to the Vet's lounge - either.

I used to post as SixTango.
Same deal, off/line for awhile, moved, switched computers, different ISP, signed on again as "agar".

Sometimes life is like that. :rolleyes: :smirk: :tongue:


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: agar]
    #5151096 - 01/07/06 03:08 PM (19 years, 14 days ago)

SixTango, your like some sorta hero... haha, they should let you in there, i've read your posts and seen your pics. I think it may have been your WBS tek that started me off, not 100% sure but, I think so. Anyways, good deal... I'll stick around and maybe i'll be putting pictures in the pictures and grow log forum before long. Later guys!


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Erickson]
    #5153250 - 01/08/06 04:01 AM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I will not deny that other methods can produce higher yields. Adding grains, manure based substrates and so on. But the title of the thread is what the easiest way of growing Pans is. In my opinion this is the easiest way. Just soak hay in water, sterilize it and inocculate it. It is as easy as growing Cubensis with the PF-TEK. I also have a Pan Goliath print in stock and will try it next, in order to see if the hay method works also reliable with other strains. Pan Tropicalis is said to be a very easy fruiter.

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5153309 - 01/08/06 05:30 AM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Saturday I harvested the fully cased microbox. The weight was about 3g fresh. New mushrooms appeared 24 hours later. This is how it loooks today:
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001585ga.jpg

In the half cased tray I harvested only the largest one and cloned it. (I also made 3 other clones from the other box)From the other 3 I try to make prints:
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001599cq.jpg

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5153312 - 01/08/06 05:38 AM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Mistake. I harvested the fully cased box on Friday.

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: jtseaweed]
    #5153562 - 01/08/06 09:56 AM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Cultivating Panaeolus (Coplandia) Species..Trops or Cyanescens
By: ralphster44


You will find your cultivation efforts very similar to cultivating any Cubensis strain.
I have tried several different substrates and my substrate of choice is Pennington?s brand Finch seed. It seems to colonize quicker and with less problems.

Lightly boil your seed in water for 45 minutes or an hour. Let it steep, to absorb as much water as it can. Then put in a colander and rinse with tap water to wash off all the dirt and nasty sludge. A strainer would probably work better.
Let drain for 15 minutes. The seed should have absorbed all the water it can, you don't want any extra water in the substrate.

Load your jars, ? pint jars work great. Leave room at the top for a layer of vermiculite. Pressure cook your jars for 1 hour at 15 psi. the time starts when the PC reads 15 psi.

I punch 4 holes in the lids of my jars and turn the rubber so it faces up.
Seal with aluminum foil?.now pressure cook them.

When the time is up?.turn off the heat?let your jars cool overnight.

Using the "oven-tek" remove your jars from the PC and put on oven rack.
Take your ready made syringes and..1 at a time?inoculate your jars. Wipe your needle between jars with a napkin containing alcohol. Shake the syringe between injections to distribute the spores evenly.

Once all your jars have been inoculated?store them at about 80-85 degrees until fully colonized.
The mycelia of the Pans is fine..and very fragile. Once they are fully colonized?let them sit for another week.


OK?the good part?..

Use a plastic tray?Mix all your spawn with zoodoo/compost or dung/compost. I use 8 jars to 5 pounds of that. If you use any store bought compost?strain out all the wood,?sticks..woodchips..etc.
You can nuke your dung/compost in a microwave for 10 minutes.
If you have obtained dung or compost from a garden?Pasteurize it.

Once you have done all this?cover your trays and let them sit for a couple days. Now?check out your trays?.do you see mycelium growing?
If so?what I do is?case them with a layer of the same dung/compost. Use about a ? inch only. Give them a GOOD misting and give them light.

Now your back to the regular Cubensis teks?.fan and mist as necessary.

This is an easy way to explain this?I have tried all kinds of substrates and compost mixes, but this will work real good for you.
I have posted my results..in pictures before?and I'm sure you have all seen them.

Fruiting temps are about 75 degrees. Some would argue?but the results show the flushes. The potency is fabulous.
Rye is also a great substrate..very good potency also.
The Pan Trops are fantastic..but I seem to find that the Cyans are more potent.

If anyone would like to see all the pics?from casing to full blown fruiting?you can email me(ralphster44@hushmail.com)?Ill send you a ZIP file of all the stages.
This is an excellent shroom!!
I have sent out a couple hundred prints?trops and cyans?so ?try this method and let me know the results.
I'm sure you will have success with this method?.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: ralphster44]
    #5154004 - 01/08/06 12:13 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I am afraid Penningston?s brand Finch seed is not available in NL, where I live. Also I have trouble finding dung that works. I have had only bad experiences with store bought dung. But I keep experimenting. My biggest concern at the moment is to make sporeprints. I have to establish better ventilation.

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5287872 - 02/11/06 03:00 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

A new attempt. The first mushrooms had long stems and small hats. I was unable to make sporeprints from them. This time I gave them more fresh air. They are standing in a bucket near the heating. I made 4 holes in the plastic that covers the bucket. These shrooms have shorter stems and larger hats. But they are still not perfect. I have to give them even more fresh air. The caps do not seem to open entirely. However this mornig I noticed that they had dropped some spores overnight. I may get some prints from these half opened caps after all.
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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5287874 - 02/11/06 03:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

For some reason the link does not seem to work. I try it this way:
http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00000017qd.jpg

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5290679 - 02/12/06 01:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Even though the hats did not open completely, I could make 2 prints. They are small, but enough to start again after the clones had their best time.
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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5291415 - 02/12/06 01:08 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Please stop post whoring cyano, thanks.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: coda]
    #5291846 - 02/12/06 03:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Please stop post whoring cyano, thanks.




No kidding! Damn, it's like he's talking to himself! :smirk:


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: FooMan]
    #5294751 - 02/13/06 01:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I don?t think that I am post whoring. Or talking to myself. If I want to talk I visit the chat. The title of the thread is ??The most simple pan cyan tek??. I think using hay as a substrate is the most simple. Hay is not very contaminous, the mycelium grows very good on it and it works reliable as a fruiting substrate. I had some critics on my first comments and I am trying to defend my opinion. My second attempt showed some improvement. Besides that I am not finished yet. When growing pans it is better to work with clones. I inoculated a filterpatch bag with a clone. But it will take a few weeks before it is colonized. I hope this will definetely prove that hay is a good fruiting substrate. I don?t claim that it gives better results as manure or whatever, but because it is so easy growing pans becomes possible for everyone.
Isn?t this is what the growing forum is about? Sharing information with the community. I am not waiting for people to say what a nice job I did. It is just the opposite. I did nothing special, did nothing that requires any special skills. With hay it just works so easy that there is nothing to be proud about. I have the idea that my first attempt to convince people of the advantages of hay did fail. That is why I posted new evidence.

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5294961 - 02/13/06 02:06 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Relax dude.

The fact is that you posted about 10 times in this thread. You posted about 5 times in a row at one point without a response when you could have consolidated most of that information into 1 or 2 posts. Start your own thread if you feel the need to prove how well hay works, don't jack this one.

I'm all for sharing information, you're just going about it the wrong way. :peace:


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: Cyano]
    #5295357 - 02/13/06 03:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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I don?t think that I am post whoring. Or talking to myself. If I want to talk I visit the chat. The title of the thread is ??The most simple pan cyan tek??. I think using hay as a substrate is the most simple. Hay is not very contaminous, the mycelium grows very good on it and it works reliable as a fruiting substrate. I had some critics on my first comments and I am trying to defend my opinion. My second attempt showed some improvement. Besides that I am not finished yet. When growing pans it is better to work with clones. I inoculated a filterpatch bag with a clone. But it will take a few weeks before it is colonized. I hope this will definetely prove that hay is a good fruiting substrate. I don?t claim that it gives better results as manure or whatever, but because it is so easy growing pans becomes possible for everyone.
Isn?t this is what the growing forum is about? Sharing information with the community. I am not waiting for people to say what a nice job I did. It is just the opposite. I did nothing special, did nothing that requires any special skills. With hay it just works so easy that there is nothing to be proud about. I have the idea that my first attempt to convince people of the advantages of hay did fail. That is why I posted new evidence.




Yes, but we have whats called the "edit" button. Look, its ok if you forgot to add a tibit and add a second post under your original. But all of your posts within this thread could and should have been contained within in one post. This helps keep the post clutter free and makes it easier to read and moderate.

All im asking is for you to please pay more attention to this in the future, thanks.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: jtseaweed]
    #13927259 - 02/08/11 01:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

nice.  added to my threads.


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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #13927348 - 02/08/11 01:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

another old thread.

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #13927362 - 02/08/11 01:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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nice.  added to my threads.




Did you reply to that old post, or did it "bumped up" out of nowhere?

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Re: The most simple pan cyan tek [Re: coda]
    #21834294 - 06/20/15 10:09 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

This whole requirement posts thing is killing me. Ive been reading for about a year now but just finally created an account so I can hopefully someday get into these fabled grow logs. "Killing me smalls" - the sandlot

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