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OfflineCannabischarlie
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wow! that was quick! now about drying them...
    #5142494 - 01/05/06 09:31 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

I have a couple mushrooms on one side of the cake, and one in particular is growing at an alarming rate, like, i go to bed and its considerably bigger when i wake up. this thing might need to be picked soon. I live in a pretty dry climate, colorado, can i get past building a desiccant chamber and just use the fan method or should i use that? i was going to do the cooked epsom salt method from my book but i dont have access to an oven that someone wont ask me what im doing right now.


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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #5142523 - 01/05/06 09:45 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

Or you could Get a food dehydrator for around $40. Dry them till cracker dry. Under 110 degrees F is suggested but many here say even at 140 there is no loss in potency.

Much cleaner and efficient in the long run.


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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5142577 - 01/05/06 10:01 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

Using a fan, and trying them in the sun with the gills facing up I here is a healthy method.
Honestly...I've never turned the gills up(just something I've read in Stamets book), but having a fan blow on them will work just fine.
afterwards for better dryness(is that a word?), you can use the desiccant chamber.
But I've been happy with the fan for years :smile:
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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: kiss]
    #5142635 - 01/05/06 10:18 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

I live in Colorado also (GO BRONCOS!!!) and all I use are racks for drying and put them in my closet. I dont use fans, but then again, I'm in no hurry for them to dry out in 2-3 days (w/fan) as opposed to 3-4 days (w/o fan).

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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: kiss]
    #5142636 - 01/05/06 10:18 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

i don't think drying them in the sun is a good idea, for some reason i think it breaks down the actives.

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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: backupwards]
    #5142645 - 01/05/06 10:21 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

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backupwards said:
i don't think drying them in the sun is a good idea, for some reason i think it breaks down the actives.

:peace:




I am with you. However, I'm sure that most on here will say it wont matter cause of the fact that they wont heat up to whatever degree they say it takes. But in my opinion and experience, heat in whatever capacity harms them. And I'm talking around 100? etc.. and I'm sure in direct sunlight, they can easily get exposed to heat like that through a window.

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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: backupwards]
    #5142653 - 01/05/06 10:25 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

I'll have to refer to one of my books again on this. Maybe I stand corrected. However the amound of vitamin D goes way up when dried in the sun in this manner. Again though I'm not sure if cubie's were included in this study.
But saying this would mean that light would have to be the single factor in the break down...no? Something to ponder...
In any case the fan has treated me well in drying.
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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: kiss]
    #5142670 - 01/05/06 10:32 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

I think that Vitamin D is only affected by sunlight in GROWING, not drying. Such as the people in siberia have rickets cause they never get sunlight... That is what I believe prompted that whole study. And hence the reason why we have "vitamin D enriched milk"... But I am pretty sure it's only during growth/life that it is affected, not after death/drying... The phsylocide or however you spell it would really have to be photosensative for light to break it down. I'd be more concerned with the heat than the light during drying.

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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: BigPete1999]
    #5142716 - 01/05/06 10:43 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

Hi guys, just passing by...
I've read Stamets explaining how UV rays affect potency. Definitly not good to overexpose them to the sun.


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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: BigPete1999]
    #5142779 - 01/05/06 11:04 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

Paul Stamets...Mycelium Running:
Most gourmet and medical mushrooms, unlike button mushrooms, require light. Light exposer influences vitamin content in mushrooms, particularly the conversion of ergosterol to provitamin D2, a strong antioxidant. In the human body, UV light transforms calciferol, but not ergosterol, into vitamin D. In mushrooms, UV light transforms ergosterol into vitamin D2.
Paul Stamets.....Mycelium Running:
Mushrooms, upon harvesting, were either dried indoors, in darkness, or exposed to sun light from 10:00am-16:00pm. between june and sept. 2004. Once exposed to sunlight, fruiting bodies were harvested and dried indoors by commercial dryer's, or outside under summer sun. The products were then subjected to standardized high-pressure liquid chromatography analysis.
Paul Stamets..."Mycelium Running":
Freshly picked indoor-grown Shiitake mushrooms when dried indoors, had only 110 IU vitamin D, but when placed outdoors to dry in the sun produced an astonishing 21,400 IU of vitamin D per 100g.
Paul Stamets...."Mycelium Running":
In comparison, mushrooms from the same strain, when grown outdoors in sunlight, and dried in the dark produced only 1,620 IU, a 13-fold difference. We also found surprising differences depending on how the mushrooms were oriented to the sun. When the spore-bearing surfaces(gills or pores) of mushrooms faced up toward the sun, much more vitamin D was produced then when these Fertile surfaces were faced down.

Just trying to clear up the Vitamin D issue. Now about the break-down of psychoactive compounds in direct light i'm not sure of. Need Anno here


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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: kiss]
    #5142794 - 01/05/06 11:07 AM (19 years, 15 days ago)

good find. guess when they are dead, they can still convert. interesting. probably cause it is still fresh, so the tissue is technically still alive. who knows, all we know is that you probably shouldn't do it. Maybe I'll do a test and see. I already have to do a colloidal silver test, so might as well add this to my list of tests to do.

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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: kiss]
    #6804971 - 04/18/07 03:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

When ultraviolet light activates ergosterol (the sterol fungi use for cell walls) it becomes viosterol which is apparently the precursor for ergocalciferol (aka Vitamin D2).

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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: synapticaxon]
    #6805170 - 04/18/07 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I just posted this thread today: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=6805165&page=0&vc=&PHPSESSID=#Post6805165

I give my drying method which uses a box fan and I offer a tip that quickens drying by about 2x.

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Re: wow! that was quick! now about drying them... [Re: synapticaxon]
    #6805365 - 04/18/07 05:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

lay them out on paper covered trays for a few days.
maybe cubes are different but...

i have stored liberty caps for years in porous containers,
kept in an unheated kitchen without noticeable loss of potency.

...i will keep some cubes the same way, to sample.
report trip to come...;)


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