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 GhostPanther
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 Re: Tryptamine HCl and making more potent shrooms.  [Re: daussaulit]
#1041878 - 11/10/02 09:21 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok, this has been brought up too many times to count here... whats the point of adding a relatively expensive chem to your mushroom substrate just to create more psilocybin? I dont know what you are growing, but here is a inexpensive way to create more psilocybin in your shrooms: grow different species man! Cubes arent the only ones out there, try the panaleous species or start a bed of azures outdoors, there are so many other far easier & less expensive ways to do it. the psilocybin & psilocin content of these is much greater than of cubensis. your goal of creating some type of "super shroom" is possible, but why bother?
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 Alkaloids
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 Re: Tryptamine HCl and making more potent shrooms. [Re: daussaulit]
#1044993 - 11/11/02 10:02 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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be very very skeptical of anyone chemical distributor that will sell any watched compounds to _any_ individuals without proper DEA documentation. Especially with this 9/11 bullshit going on. They have added even more compounds to the watched list. Everything from acetone to sassafrass oil is watched now.
Please do some serious homework before deciding to buy research chemicals. This is no laughing matter.
Seeing as how mushrooms are relatively easy to cultivate and extractions of the active alkaloids *ha ha* are not too difficult either, it seems to be an inordinate amount of work for the gains you might get.
If you are doing this to impress people, then you are going down the wrong path already, but in time hubris might turn out to be a mean bedfellow. (not talking to you dassaulit  )
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Zen Peddler
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Re: Tryptamine HCl and making more potent shrooms. [Re: GhostPanther]
#1045482 - 11/12/02 02:21 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree - cubies are weak whether precursors are added or not - try better psilocybes
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 Re: Tryptamine HCl and making more potent shrooms. [Re: vaporbrains]
#1057841 - 11/16/02 09:25 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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In response to
Poster: vaporbrains
Subject: Re: Tryptamine HCl and making more potent shrooms.
you have to convert the tryptophan to tryptamine. where can i get the tryptophan, remy?
although a ban still exists in the US due to deaths tied to one batch that used geneticly modified bacteria to synthesize tryptophan
http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-tryp1.html
the fda did allow the use of 5-hydroxytrptophan as an over the counter replacement. i don't know enough about chemistry to know if this could be converted to tryptamine... i would love to have our board experts look at this...
another alternative i'm considering is taking advantage of legislation passed early this year allowing doctors to prescribe l-tryptophan... any knowlegable physician who understands nutrition and accepts supplementation would easilly write a prescription. this is an essential amino acid found abundantly in milk, turkey and other foods... here is a link
http://depressionvitamins.com/tryptophan/
my personal experience with tryptophan in the past was amazing... i used it to reach amazingly healthy levels of sleep... my dreaming seemed more lucid and extremely vivid. i also found it very easy to recall my dreams... it bummed me out when they pulled it... in retrospect i'm more interested in it now...
vaporbrains... your doctor would be prescibing a pharmaceutical grade amino acid to u. is tryptophan easilly converted?
this link will make u question the motives behind the ban to some degree:
http://www.ceri.com/trypto.htm
i hope the links help u.... please let me know ur thoughts... peace
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bright21
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Re: Tryptamine HCL and Tryptophan [Re: Anonymous]
#5116507 - 12/28/05 07:36 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am from china, I can sell some tryptamine derivatives, such as :N,N-dipropyltryptamine 61-52-9
2,5-dimethoxy-4-(n)-propylthiophenethylamine 207740-26-9
4-hydroxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine 132328-45-1
5-Hydroxytryptamine 153-98-0
5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine 1019-45-0
5-methoxy-alpha-methyltryptamine 1137-04-8
6-methoxyharmalan 3589-73-9
YOu can contact with us at : kemsales@hotmail.com. Minium order will be 10gram of each of them.
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neoboom
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Re: Tryptamine HCL and Tryptophan [Re: bright21]
#5118662 - 12/29/05 11:39 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Guys in America...
use your head.. with the spying going on...
the last thing you want to do is purchase a DEA watch list precursor from another country.
Look at my tek.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5113718/an/0/page/0
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WormholeSurfer
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Re: Tryptamine HCL and Tryptophan [Re: neoboom]
#5119316 - 12/29/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I remember reading somewhere that bananas contain a lot of tryptamines
Has anyone grown shrooms on bananas before?
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FungiFood
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Lets say SWIM has experience in a field that would help you guys out. If SWIM made an account to gauge the number of people who would want a certain "fungal food" SWIM would want to know how many people would be interested before getting serious. It would probably be alot cheaper than the price you would pay from a RC site, and several times cheaper than the price you would pay from a real chem distributor. Do I see any hands?
SWIM would be willing to do a few small test orders ~50mg, so that you know this is legit. SWIM is fully aware that 50mg makes only 10mL of 25mM solution, hardly enough for any large scale or multiple applications. The test orders would be solely to establish the trust and hopefully give someone who has access to some qualitative analysis (other than SWIM) a change to give a word or two about quality. The test orders would probably be limited to the first few orders. I would assume that others would vouch for me after that.
Mods. Let me know if this "gauging interest" post is inappropriate.
Edited by FungiFood (01/04/06 04:59 PM)
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