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 wintertime
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 Re: Australian aboriginals  [Re: missulena]
#517087 - 01/11/02 02:57 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure how they could tell they were being watched, especially from a helicopter, but there is a POSSIBILITY that there still could be undiscovered tribes, not a very good one IMHO. If hypothetically there was an undiscovered tribe, they probably would have felt some effects of European settlement, eg planes flying overhead? Also, Australian Aboriginals were nomadic, they travelled great distances, albeit in certain terrirtories they were familiar with, and did have interaction with other tribes.
I forgot to mention in my above post, possibly the "beings from the sky" you refer to could in fact be white man? When they first settled in 1788, they were mistaken for Ancestor Spirits (the ones who created the earth's features, by the way, i don't say created the earth, because they believe that the earth had always existed).
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Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: wintertime]
#517597 - 01/11/02 04:06 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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They got droped off by a helicopter and than canoed up a gorge and made a camp site there, its all in an issue of Australian geographic from about 8 years ago. The python they were looking for was called a rough scaled python
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 Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: wintertime]
#517954 - 01/11/02 10:41 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Magicshrooms - I do belive you are the luckiest guy I have ever known to exist, I would give anything for one of those nights you experienced..
Wintertime - no, I know when the white people came in there history, but there is a seperate incident LONG, LONG before that. Some sort of sky sprits they say, came and visited and then left through the sky.
Could that also have something to do with that ziggurat that was discovered off the coast of Japan. Do you think that aboriginal people could have built it, and then when the Ainu came to japan, they were maybe moved south? huh, to many questions that will probebly never be answered
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 Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: ArchDruid]
#518111 - 01/12/02 02:15 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Visit this site to find out more.
http://aboriginalart.com.au/culture/dreamtime.html
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wintertime
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Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: MagicRooms]
#518273 - 01/12/02 07:07 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Song chant incessantly to the accompaniment of the didgeridoo or clap sticks relates the story of events of those early times and brings to the power of the dreaming to bear of life today. "
thats what i was trying to say in one of my posts above.. a bit clearer here.
anyway.. even if there is an undiscovered tribe, does it really matter? it's only a matter of time before they are discovered and their idyllic world is destroyed like the others. it's sad, but thats what happened.
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Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: wintertime]
#518564 - 01/12/02 02:33 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a didgeridoo made from and ironbark tree, handcarved and painted the traditional way with bees wax. Now they make doo's out of PVC pipe and slide them in and out to make a sound effect. That's progress????
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Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: MagicRooms]
#518869 - 01/12/02 09:39 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Interesting post here... I'd like ot share my .02 if y'all wouldnt mind...
As far as undiscovered tribes go, from an anthropological perspective there are no more "undiscovered" elements of human civilizations existing in the world today. At one time or another all of these indigenous people have had some form of contact with "civilized" societies.
As far as the didge goes, the aborigines know the instrument as a Yidaki, didge is the white name given by settlers. My understanding is that aborigiinals made didge's out of whatever materials were available to them. I guess now, with the influence of western society into aboriginal culture, the two are merging into a hybrid where elemnts of both cultures are becoming one. Media has a lot to do with this too, we get much more exposed to thier culture from tv and stuff. Ive lost count of how many times people have said "Thats that THING from SURVIVOR!" when ive been playing my didge...
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Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: TheCaptain]
#518908 - 01/12/02 10:23 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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If there undiscovered than they have only been indirectly influenced by us e.g theve seen an aeroplane fly by, we wouldnt know about them, are you saying that the earth has been that thoroughly explored that its impossible even in Australia that a small tribe could go about its buisness and not know about white people?
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Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: MagicRooms]
#519112 - 01/13/02 03:46 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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And what is unsacred about PVC pipe? The ironwood pipe is just as manufactured as any other musical instrument.
It is the expression that is magical, not the mediium. Thought you of all people would understand that...
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 Re: Australian aboriginals [Re: Swami]
#520010 - 01/14/02 01:30 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Swami
If you think searching the forest for a hollow tree, cutting it down, trimming to the correct size and shape, burning the inside with hot ash to get the correct sound, hand painting and finishing off the ironbark with bees wax is the same as extruding a piece of PVC and cutting it with a hacksaw, that's your opinon. I said nothing about being unsacred? I said that's progress for you! I also made no mention of the medium of expression.
I prefer to play my traditional doo, but that's just me.
Edited by MagicRooms (01/14/02 01:32 AM)
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