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Cray
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Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain?
#5132304 - 01/02/06 06:01 PM (19 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yea, that's right...
I first did WBS (wild bird seed) and then cased it with horse poo. Got extremly good pins! Nice flushes everything! I even made post about it and asking people how there looking.
So I wanted to test them out, I pick out a fresh 33.3grams. I ate them wet and everything. Actully, I didn't eat them all, only about 3/4 of it. It was so nasty, I almost puked trying to swallow it. When I ate them I tripped pretty hard, did have some visual. I think I tripped harder because they were fresh? I talkin really fresh, picked them at like 7am and ate them at 7pm. When I was comming down I was comming down hard, bad headach, 3 minutes feeling like 3 hours, I was just realllllly fucked up but not like a trippin to hard fucked up, you know what I mean?
I gave my friend and his sister a 1/8 each (3.5g). My friend is more my little ginnypig, he always test out my batch, tripped with him plenty. But he told me they took a little while to kick in like more than 20-30minute. He said he tripped everything, but not real hard. No real visual, just a light calm kind of trip.
When he told me about that, I went off thinking real hard on what happened... and I think it's possibly the strain. Am I right? Whats your experince? Thanks.
Btw, here are some pictures of my grow.






 Cased 2 left 1 uncased





Sorry for all the pictures, I wanted to share them anyways.
-Cray
Edited by Cray (01/02/06 06:06 PM)
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Snaggletooth
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5132405 - 01/02/06 06:29 PM (19 years, 19 days ago) |
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Nice pics.... 
As far as the potency goes no idea....
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5132556 - 01/02/06 07:04 PM (19 years, 19 days ago) |
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I also grew some Cambodians using horse manure spawned from WBS. We had this discussion on an earlier thread, if you remember, that the fruits from my grow and someone else's came out small. My Cambodians came out extremely potent, in fact I nearly lost it when tripping on them.
I don't think it has anything to do with your grow technique, but maybe the amount of psilocybin per gram in the larger fruits. Now keep in mind I have no science to back this up, but speaking from personal experience here, I always have to take more mushrooms on my larger fruits than I do on my smaller ones.
Coincidence? It's been consistent for my last 5 grows, so who knows.
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Cray
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Wronguy]
#5134129 - 01/03/06 05:44 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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hm... interesting... They were a good medium/large mushies. Any one else?
I think I'll go with PESA next time....
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5134142 - 01/03/06 05:58 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Cambos have NEVER failed me before. Yeah, sometimes I trip harder than others, but I always have a great trip. My suggestion would be to grind your shrooms down to a powder after they are 100% dry with a coffee grinder. This evens out the potency by mixing the potent & not-so-potent shrooms together and makes storage of the shrooms MUCH easier. You can get quite a few ounces in a quart jar this way. This also makes it easier for people who don't like the taste to swallow the shrooms. Just blend them in with your favorite juice and gulp it down!
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Cray
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: FooMan]
#5134146 - 01/03/06 06:01 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Think it had to do anything with the spores?
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5134161 - 01/03/06 06:22 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Where'd you buy them?
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: FooMan]
#5134198 - 01/03/06 07:21 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Cambo's on horse poo turned out huge fruits, and not bad potency but not the best either. A few friends have wild trips on it but personally found them more mild than others.
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5134261 - 01/03/06 08:31 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
Cray said: So I wanted to test them out, I pick out a fresh 33.3grams. I ate them wet and everything... When I ate them I tripped pretty hard.... I think I tripped harder because they were fresh.
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Cray said: I gave my friend and his sister a 1/8 each (3.5g)....
Sounds like you ate FRESH ones and they worked fine, but your friends had DRY ones and they didn't work rght? Must be a problem with the way you dried/stored them then.
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5134278 - 01/03/06 08:43 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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You can never tell...even flushes are different. Mushrooms are weird:) Cams are a great strain....but you never know about potency...as with all strains. Roll of the dice.....
Cult conditions may help:) Keep playing...ALL my strains are good. Thats why I sell the spores. Experiment bro:) Thats the fun..and the knowledge gained:)
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Erickson]
#5134281 - 01/03/06 08:47 AM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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It seems to me that different vendors spores of the same strain are better than others sometimes. I can't give a reason why. Maybe incorrect labeling or bad isolates?
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Cray
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: FooMan]
#5134719 - 01/03/06 12:24 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Alright, that's kind of weird though... they weren't really potent!
You tripped but your vision doesn't play with you.
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gogrowgo123
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5134852 - 01/03/06 01:07 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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from my limited experience of growing cambodians along with information from this website i can confidently say that no two batches of cambos are the same. i grew mine half on cakes and half cased 50/50. the cakes gave me huge fruits and the casing gave me rediculously small ones (like 2-3 inch average), but the small ones made me trip harder than the big ones, no competition.
im gonna have to go with the poster who mentioned a possible flaw in drying. make sure you keep them somewhere with minimum light and follow the teks. good luck!
oh and also, when you gave him 3.5 grams, were they cracker dry (like there is no way they would bend, only crack and crumble) becuase 3.5 grams of almost cracker dry mushrooms is a lot different than 3.5 of cracker dry ones.
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Cray
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: gogrowgo123]
#5135305 - 01/03/06 02:55 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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I just use damp-rid... no where near heat...
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: gogrowgo123]
#5135347 - 01/03/06 03:11 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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gogrowgo123 said: from my limited experience of growing cambodians along with information from this website i can confidently say that no two batches of cambos are the same.
That goes for all strains IME. That's why I suggested grinding them so that potency is even throughout.
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Cray
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: FooMan]
#5135855 - 01/03/06 05:38 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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alright, I'll try grinding it all up...
when I grind it up, when it all grounded up, is 3.5g same quanity as when it wasn't broken up?
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5136129 - 01/03/06 07:02 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Cray said: when I grind it up, when it all grounded up, is 3.5g same quanity as when it wasn't broken up?
Of course - 3.5 grams is 3.5 grams. Like Fooman said, it is just all mixed more evenly.
There are a lot of other factors that come into play as well, you cant just say 'my shrooms weren't potent'. Did the person who tried it have a full stomach, a light meal or an empty stomach? When was the last time they tripped? How were the shrooms stored? How old were they? etc. etc.
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Cray
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: _OttO_]
#5136217 - 01/03/06 07:26 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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he had an empty stomach, I think I'll go with the grinding them up.. that seems like a good way... When I get time I'll do that, I'm still harvesting my grow!
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5136283 - 01/03/06 07:40 PM (19 years, 18 days ago) |
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Well good luck with the next time then!
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5138675 - 01/04/06 12:59 PM (19 years, 17 days ago) |
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Cray said: he had an empty stomach, I think I'll go with the grinding them up.. that seems like a good way... When I get time I'll do that, I'm still harvesting my grow!
You won't regret it! I seperate my strains into different jars, but I also have a mixed strain jar. That one is a real killer!
This "shroom powder" seems to stay good for years too. I ate a spoonful from a jar I'd had for 4 years and it was one of the best trips ever!
Also when you grind them up in the coffee grinder and open the grinder up, you'll see a little cloud floating. It's pretty much just shroom "dust", but it looks magical to me
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: Cray]
#5262973 - 02/04/06 03:16 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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do you happen to know if your friend was taking any prescription medications like zoloft? I've heard that the effects of psychedelics can be reduced or even negated by ssris. just a thought.
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: brak888]
#5263131 - 02/04/06 03:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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were the 3,5g complety dried?
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Re: Grew Cambodian off h/poo.....got little potency... possibly the strain? [Re: FooMan]
#5263541 - 02/04/06 06:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have had friends with similar "loss in potency" who were also taking SSRIS...
Could be.
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