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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
    #5133092 - 01/02/06 09:09 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Cerv tried to handle things privately via support tickets. After three days of trying and no reply at all, he went back to WAF and posted a request that his ticket be handled.




... about the same issue roaming around for months and after the staff reached a final decision. What's the threshold, the millionth time ?

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Duh. For a mod, you're remarkably uninformed.




Or is it because i follow the staff like a sheep ... or is it because i speak freely. Try to understand your inability to objectively discuss this situation, you are not part of the staff and never did. Anything coming from your side regarding such administrative actions is pure and laughable speculation :smile: .

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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
    #5133111 - 01/02/06 09:14 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Has Cerv every been banned before? If not, the admin who banned him should have been confined by the guidelines of giving a 24 hour ban before giving longer ones. Permabans are reserved for repeat offenders and those guilty of things that
compromise the safety of the website or the members it consists of.




Rhetoric is well destroyed with facts.

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Repeat offenders who continue to violate policy and/or administrative direction, will be permanently banned.




RTFM
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1465662/an/0/page/0

MAIA


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
    #5133121 - 01/02/06 09:17 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

convenient.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Booby]
    #5133142 - 01/02/06 09:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

... but also reasonable in this case. Take a read at Anno's posts, does he looks like the guy that's reading about this stuff for the first time ? No, the "administrative direction" had already been given some time ago. You draw your own conclusions ...

MAIA


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
    #5133143 - 01/02/06 09:23 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You conveniently left out the first two parts, sweetheart.

# A first offense for minor infractions will result in a written warning by moderator/administrator either via Private Message, or in the thread where the incident occurred. Immediate bans are often issued without warning in circumstances involving SPAM, explicitly illegal activity, excessive harassment, or any behavior deemed malicious.
# Upon second offense, the user will receive a temporary ban of anywhere from 1-15 days with: (1) a brief explanation of the reason behind the ban and (2) the duration of said ban.
# Repeat offenders who continue to violate policy and/or administrative direction, will be permanently banned.

You can't just go from warning to permaban, with extreme exceptions I noted above. He must first be temporarily banned.

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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
    #5133174 - 01/02/06 09:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

He must first be temporarily banned.

He was given a temp ban earlier last month, for 5 days. He said this very clearly in this thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5092498#Post5092498


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
    #5133183 - 01/02/06 09:34 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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While we will do our best to be fair, we do reserve the right to ban anyone for any reason




The administration can do whatever they want. But that's NOT THE POINT.
You don't know how many violations, warnings or temp bans he went through, or do you ?

Again i stand

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Repeat offenders who continue to violate policy and/or administrative direction, will be permanently banned.







MAIA


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: trendal]
    #5133185 - 01/02/06 09:34 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Someone being banned because an admin is being a whiny cunt shouldn't count. Look at the reason for that ban, for fuck's sake.

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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: trendal]
    #5133213 - 01/02/06 09:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I just found myself in agreement with what he was saying and trying to do. I talked to him and told him my experience with management in the world and predicted each outcome for him. He choose to believe that the mods and admin would come around and change something. So I guess he was willing to be banned over this issue. My reason to post this is to acknowledge his efforts. If we don't see him here again then I wanted to make sure that his friends knew why he was gone.

As I said long ago I actually got involved in this whole mess supporting the mods. That was an error of judgment on my part. Not because there wasn't something that needed to be dealt with but because there was not honor or justice in there dealings with the offenders. And on and on.

So Cervantes, where ever you are tonight. Thanks Pal. It was fun knowing you. :thumbup:


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
    #5133224 - 01/02/06 09:45 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Cervantes, for doing so much for a community that turned its back on you.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
    #5133293 - 01/02/06 10:02 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Swami, would you care to make a wider selection of accusations ?

All true me boy. Anyone who cares can view the thread that got me permabanned. It is RIGHT HERE:  web page

No need to read the whole thread as it was the opening quote that pissed Wiccan_Seeker off so much that the drastic action of a permaban was 'necessary'. Of course, it is not even my quote, but that of a well-respected author.

Spin THAT, Maia!

Cervantes knew it was total bullshit and his integrity gene got the better of him. He would have to have undergone major surgery to stay on staff. Instead he stayed true to his own moral compass. *gasp* We certainly would not want that in a SPIRITUALITY FORUM moderator. :blush:


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5133296 - 01/02/06 10:04 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Swami said:
All true me boy. Anyone who cares can view the thread that got me permabanned. It is RIGHT HERE:  web page



Microsoft's website got you permabanned? :confused:


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Silversoul]
    #5133299 - 01/02/06 10:05 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Seriously Cervantes (if you ever read this):  If I never smoke pot around a campfire with you again, I'm going to be INCREDIBLY pissed off.  :mad2:  Your sense of humor was like no other.  :heart:

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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Silversoul]
    #5133306 - 01/02/06 10:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Try it again.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5133354 - 01/02/06 10:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
    #5133403 - 01/02/06 10:29 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Repeat offenders who continue to violate policy...

*yawn*

No offense nor directive was violated and no animals were harmed in the course of my post.

Keep repeating it over and over again and maybe that will make it true...  :rolleyes:

Was there a RATIONAL reason given? No!

Was there a warning given? No! (Well, technically it came AFTER the ban.)

Was there a temporary ban? No!

Was discussion allowed? No!

Did that irk Cervantes? UBETCHA!

Do people respond favorably to having their pettiness being exposed?  Hmmm...

Hence: Silence the truth-bringer. Pure and simple.


Bye bye, Cerv. You had some balls, my man.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Silversoul]
    #5134066 - 01/03/06 04:12 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
Thanks Cervantes, for doing so much for a community that turned its back on you.




Yeah he has done a lot for the Shroomery, but don't get so melodramatic; it's not that the community turned its back on him. We are the community, aren't we?

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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
    #5134100 - 01/03/06 05:02 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Someone being banned because an admin is being a whiny cunt shouldn't count. Look at the reason for that ban, for fuck's sake.




Sure ! The whole staff are whiny cunts but one moderator. Heck, they all should be banned  :rolleyes:

MAIA


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5134116 - 01/03/06 05:20 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Swami said:
Swami, would you care to make a wider selection of accusations ?

All true me boy. Anyone who cares can view the thread that got me permabanned. It is RIGHT HERE:  web page

No need to read the whole thread as it was the opening quote that pissed Wiccan_Seeker off so much that the drastic action of a permaban was 'necessary'. Of course, it is not even my quote, but that of a well-respected author.

Spin THAT, Maia!

Cervantes knew it was total bullshit and his integrity gene got the better of him. He would have to have undergone major surgery to stay on staff. Instead he stayed true to his own moral compass. *gasp* We certainly would not want that in a SPIRITUALITY FORUM moderator. :blush:




Spin that, LOL !

Your tactics might work with some but they don't work with me Swami. That thread was discussed among the moderators and most of them agreed you were behaving like a prick by subtly but constantly trolling the boards. That's exactly my point, you are versed in the art of trolling, moderators just happen to be trolls natural predators. Live with it!

Anyway, i'm not the one hacking young minds since 1999 ... and if there's someone with the need for an integrity gene, that one is you and all your minions.

MAIA


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
    #5134127 - 01/03/06 05:38 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
As I said long ago I actually got involved in this whole mess supporting the mods. That was an error of judgment on my part.




Drop the mask. Your words of discouragement sent to some moderators are a true indicator of which side you belong. Besides, where's the integrity with playing on both sides ?

MAIA


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