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Booby
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5132795 - 01/02/06 07:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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You mean you and veritas aren't in on it? Oedipus & Electra & "Don't worry about what happens to your fellow man as long as it doesn't happen to you" ?
HA!
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Icelander
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Booby]
#5132815 - 01/02/06 08:03 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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How could my posting about this issue be construed as not caring about my fellow man? So now lets see if you can say something I can understand.
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Redstorm
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5132833 - 01/02/06 08:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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You and anyone who agree with his ban are an embarassment to this board. Keep towing the party-line, it suits you well.
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MOTH
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5132842 - 01/02/06 08:11 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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His communication might have been abrasive, but I still don't know why he was perma banned? Okay, he was being annoying, we get that. He made lots of threads after being told told to let the matter go. Okay, lock, MAYBE a ban of a short duration. As far as I know they also don't ban people unless they break the rules, and try to make the punishment fit the crime?
If this is about this sentence of Cervantes from that thread you linked to:
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I have offered TWO suggestions to FIX THIS PROBLEM.
1. End Shroomery Bias
2. Permaban, when banning with bias, so the drama will stop
If the admin have taken him up on one of these suggestions, then they are going against their own standards (not allowing members to request a ban for themselves). As far as I can remember, Geo has not banned a member if they have requested it. I've even requested it once, and been denied. So I'm just wondering...why was he perma banned?
But I've already filled out my support ticket inquiring about that, so if you like, no need to answer, I'll just wait until I get a response.
Oh, and I'm not sure if I'm putting this across very well, but I don't want to come off sounding bitchy or anything. I'm just trying to be direct. I wasn't aware a friend was perma-banned and I'm now concerned about a few things...
so anyway. I won't say anymore in this thread about it.
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Booby
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5132855 - 01/02/06 08:14 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said: So now lets see if you can say something I can understand.
Was my English not plain enough?
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Icelander
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Booby]
#5132876 - 01/02/06 08:20 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's what I said. You don't make any sense as far as I can tell. So try it again if you really have something to say.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Booby
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5132898 - 01/02/06 08:24 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't worry; Be happy.
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Redstorm
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MOTH]
#5132908 - 01/02/06 08:27 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I understand a 24 hour ban to allow him to cool down. A permaban? No way in hell.
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MAIA
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
#5132914 - 01/02/06 08:29 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some think sheep are used for sacrifice but i don't see martyrs, just suicidal attempts.
There's a "worm" with a big sheep arsenal of such kind. Can you say "mmmeeeehhh" ?
MAIA
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Veritas
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5132928 - 01/02/06 08:31 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheep are not for sacrificing, they are mindless followers. Can you say bahhhhh-n?
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Silversoul
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5132933 - 01/02/06 08:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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/me sheers MAIA's wool and knits a sweater.
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Redstorm
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5132934 - 01/02/06 08:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was referring to you being a sheep, in the sense that you follow uncritically whatever bullshit the admins feed you.
Explain to me, you brillian mind, under what rules does he deserve a permaban?
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Booby
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
#5132967 - 01/02/06 08:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Reply to veritas:
output rotation said: "disliking people who deserved to be disliked isn't wrong. i suppose if i go with your theory, liking terrorists and thieves is healthy?"
Communication is healthy; Outright banning of opposition isn't. Don't you agree Veritas?
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MAIA
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MOTH]
#5133005 - 01/02/06 08:48 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Look Ellemy, thanks for being objective and direct when arguing about this issue. IMHO, and still not knowing the exact conditions of his ban, i believe Cervantes was pushing it for too long. This kind of situations can be handled privately using PMs. Why does the Shroomery need to start up the drama once and a while, when a member thinks he has the right to compulsively post about the same subject over and over again ?
As i see it Cervantes wanted an apology from the staff just because he does not agree with the staff decision. Sorry, but just because everyones is entitled to an opinion it doesn't mean we are obligated to follow such opinion. In fact, when he left his modship, he started acting like this was a personal vendetta. The reasons ? i don't know, i just know about the facts. And the facts dictate he was publicly and constantly defying the staff decision on a matter already closed by the administration.
I simply don't know what "problem needs to be fixed", that is his relative and subjective premise. What i believe is that what he depicts as "bias", is lack of acceptance regarding the outcome of this drama. That's the real problem, a problem he has to deal with, not the boards.
MAIA
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Veritas
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Booby]
#5133007 - 01/02/06 08:49 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Disliking and banning should not go hand-in-hand.
If a poster is truly disruptive of the members, i.e. derailing threads with nonsense, engaging in personal attacks, etc...then they deserve a warning & explanation of what their mistakes were.
If a poster is challenging administrative actions, and requesting answers to pertinent questions, they are not breaking any rules, though they may be seen as annoying. Definitely not ban-worthy.
BTW, what am I supposed to be "in on"? Are you referring to Cervantes deliberate attempt to draw biased reactions from the other mods/admins? That was his solo performance.
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MOTH
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5133013 - 01/02/06 08:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for answering. I hope the admin will reconsider his perma-ban.
Edited by EllemyshShade (01/02/06 08:54 PM)
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Diploid
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5133021 - 01/02/06 08:51 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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This kind of situations can be handled privately using PMs
Cerv tried to handle things privately via support tickets. After three days of trying and no reply at all, he went back to WAF and posted a request that his ticket be handled.
Result: permabanned.
IMHO, and still not knowing the exact conditions of his ban
Duh. For a mod, you're remarkably uninformed.
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Booby
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Veritas]
#5133023 - 01/02/06 08:52 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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"you'd be happy too If you could ban what bugs you"
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MAIA
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Veritas]
#5133040 - 01/02/06 08:55 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Sheep are not for sacrificing, they are mindless followers.
They can be both. Read what you wrote very carefully ... of course mindless followers can be sacrificed. Astonishing what some of you could understand about yourselves if you could solve a simple allegoric argument ...
Who's the worm ?
MAIA
-------------------- Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy. Voltaire
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Redstorm
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: MAIA]
#5133068 - 01/02/06 09:04 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Has Cerv every been banned before? If not, the admin who banned him should have been confined by the guidelines of giving a 24 hour ban before giving longer ones. Permabans are reserved for repeat offenders and those guilty of things that compromise the safety of the website or the members it consists of.
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