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Swami said:
Who here has 'converted' from being skeptical about aliens or interdimensional entities

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Swami said:
I have had amazing futuristic sci-fi type imagery that parallelled no movie I have ever seen.

I wonder where that comes from. Pure imagination or ...?

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I would suggest three possibilities.

1. The psychedelic enhanced psychic capabilities, and your brain was able to connect many abstract ideas into one incredible vision which you interpreted as being of the future.

2. The psychedelic opened up some sort of temporal wormhole through which your minds eye was able to see images from an alternate universe or in fact humanities future.

3. It was a cool hallucination.

I suppose the rest is up to faith 

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I have had major paradigm shifts due to entheogens, but even though I have taken near ceiling doses of nearly every entheogen I have never contacted interdimensional entities. I have what you would consider rather superstitious notions about the nature of spirit, but I have never been contacted in the way that you suggest. I did have an OOBE while under the influence of about 800 - 1000 mcg of LSD, but I have mixed feelings about it's validity.

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dblaney said:
4 hours writhing in existential and physical agony on the floor as its tentacles coursed throughout my veins and my body.

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mindcandy said:
did i miss something.

did someone hack into Swamis account?

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EllemyshShade said:

Because of this viewpoint that everything originates from inside me, I don't see much of a difference between extradimensional beings and myself.

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ELECTRIC said:
It's a little late for me to be up, but I feel like writing a little before I go to sleep.

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EllemyshShade said:

Because of this viewpoint that everything originates from inside me, I don't see much of a difference between extradimensional beings and myself.

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Here's my 'stance for now' on that....

If you look at it a little differently, a limiting problem can transform into something else.

You can't just use your ego and see things get smaller as you perceptually think things get smaller when  they go into you.
It could certainly, however, be useful to have your ego do that to consider a point.



Currently, from here, the vantage is perceived as: infinity at a point.


The 'taking off the sweater' analogy.

[It might be an illustration of something as little as just one proportional step up in scale from here.]


If you do that from here...  the smaller becomes bigger.
And once you do it, and you look out into the bigger, you notice that what you once thought was not contained, no longer seems to be expanding into what you now think is infinity.


[So... supposing that everyone can look into infinity by focusing on a point...]


If it could be accepted that everyone had, and shared in a relative manner, a very similar 'outlooking' vantage, and by noting that in  this present vantage, we occupy our own allocated individual volumetric placement, we would have to all 'stand at the edge' at our own personal spot, while looking inwards as outwards towards the same thing at a different location situated on the 'circle's perceived (or, perhaps not possibly perceived) circumferential perimeter'.

I say circle because I'm assuming that 'a point can somehow reach close to some kind of a circular -circular for convenience purposes- hole'...  A hole we all share.



Once you are in the 'bigger', the smaller seems contained in what you thought, previously, was infinity.

While looking towards the smaller, from this new vantage, you can, again, get to a point-  where inside that point,  you recall, that, once thought you 'perceived' an infinity.

That means, the containment that you now make note of, includes so much that it surpasses the furthest initial physical stretch that you have ever fully consciously attempted...


[The potential to now learn both ways, towards new bigger and towards a semi-new smaller vantage, are evident...  Just as they so familiarly, yet, unfamiliarly once were before.]



This can imply an interesting meaning: that from this new 'larger-scale' vantage, supposing that perhaps even everyone shares a kind of  'in synch' vantage towards the small, we can even be sharing our physical bodies with one another in more intricate manners than we can observe.



This becomes "Two-Table" Analogy.

'Getting from one table to the next' involves interconnectedness principles, where, we can all be one, if you agree that we are all individuals in the end.

It's ok to be afraid and not completely step out onto the other table...  No one is rushing nor forcing anyone to do so. 

Death in the form of murder or suicide is not on the agenda.


[But real accidents do happen..]



From the vantage of each table, you are an individual.

If they [the two tables] co-exist, if even in a non or semi-observed potential format, and the vantage from both tables is valid, then you relatively exist on both tables at the same time.


And if individuals, like us and the beings in our current environment, can interact with one another on one table, and if there exists a kind of proportional symmetry between tables,  then it might be possible to interact with others while considering  the other table as well.





If now you look out towards the sky and think:" Wow...It's so huge 'out there'...  How can we possibly be alone?"; and if you consider that if you look inside, you certainly can be looking towards another, even bigger outside, then, by looking inside, you can easily be made to wonder...





How can it possibly be, that I am alone?












This may not be an easy vantage to understand in all detail, but I can visualize it like this quite clearly.

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