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gettinjiggywithit
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Limited versus infinite space-play with me
#5122693 - 12/30/05 01:45 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Right now as I type, this post is taking up no space on the forum. I am creating new "potential" space as I type. Where is it coming from? I can make lots more of it to by holding my finger on the enter key
Is that like what happens when we engage in silent meditation? Doe we create pure potential empty space to be filled in later?
When I hit the send button, I will have added more space to the forum. Why do I think thats cool to contemplate? 
How much potential space is here in this forum? Is it limited to memory? How does that relate to our minds space? Is it infinite or limited to memory? Can memory be added to create more space? How? What happens to mental space when we forget and then remember? When we think new thoughts do we increase mental space or is it based just on available memory?
Does the brain have a limit to its memory capacity? Is it infinite? Just playing around with these ideas and find it all curious.
-------------------- Ahuwale ka nane huna.
Edited by gettinjiggywithit (12/30/05 01:49 PM)
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: LifeIsSweet]
#5142249 - 01/05/06 06:59 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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"We create in/through thoughts/dreams, and manifest (as) reality.." ..
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: Gomp]
#5143061 - 01/05/06 12:39 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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Hey buddy, where have you been? I have something to mail you I think you'll appreciate. I know you see the pictures I do when I talk about this stuff.
This one can go a lot places, I was just hopin someone would help nudge me into one or some of them.
The one I did slip into is thinking about how being in metal and emotional silence is a way to create more memory storage.
Every time, we meditate in silence, it's like building a new room addition to your home. You create additional future living space to the space you already had to live within.
I don't know how to word it any better right now. All I am saying is , is that, I think A LOT of time spent in silencing the mind and heart can bring big benefits to the times they are actively engaged.
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Does the brain have a limit to its memory capacity? Is it infinite?
No. Yes.
No one has any idea how powerful the brain is. It very well could be the most powerful thing in the universe. That WE know of anyway. Add shrooms (one of the most powerful tools in the universe) to the brain and you get pure magic. 
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Is that like what happens when we engage in silent meditation? Doe we create pure potential empty space to be filled in later?
Great way to look at it, I never thought of it like that. Very possible
McKennaDMT
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Well you made me think of something. How about this: if your memory is like a hard drive, then meditation is like defragging it. For the less computer literate, defragging is the process of moving files around on the hard disk to make storage and retrieval more efficient.
Think about it... when your days are really busy and you don't have time to stop and reflect on anything, memories of your experiences just get thrown in there in any old way. After a long time without at least some reflection on past events, your mind becomes so jumbled that it becomes harder and harder to remember stuff.
But when you meditate and reflect, you take your memories, and sort of categorize them or organize them (especially with regard to linear time and your feelings associated with them), and then put them away in a certain place for later. When you do this, you make more room because your mind is more organized.
As for infinite space... i don't know... but, if your imagination is unlimited, why can't any other aspect of your mind be?
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: moog]
#5149211 - 01/06/06 10:40 PM (18 years, 25 days ago) |
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he he yes, I've used the defraggin analogy before and I think it works like you said.
This time, I was looking at just putting the mind in pure silence.
defragging is an active phase of organizing and sorting.
I was seeing the pure silence as creating extra memory storage on top of what we already have.
Or like you know how its said that nature fills a void.
When we are confused or at an end to finding a solution to something with what we have, that extra space and void created by the silence can help to pull in added information to help make sense of the confusion or add and answer to the problem.
Things have been busy for me lately but when they settle down soo, I want to spend more time engaging in regular mental silence and see what effects I notice.
Thanks for playing here! 
-------------------- Ahuwale ka nane huna.
Edited by gettinjiggywithit (02/17/06 06:16 PM)
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5313488 - 02/18/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do you only practice mental silence when you are alone or in a silent environment?
I like your analogy's for the silence creating new space in memory.
I believe memory is infinite, and the door to the source, limitless memory is a exciting fun prospect!
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5313563 - 02/18/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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gettinjiggywithit said: Right now as I type, this post is taking up no space on the forum. I am creating new "potential" space as I type. Where is it coming from? I can make lots more of it to by holding my finger on the enter key
I'd hate to get all technical, but this post does take up space. Around 800 bytes to be exact. 
And the space is finite, limited by the physical capacity of the server.
Also, the allowance of text per a post is limited as well, be it large.
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: Springs]
#5313594 - 02/18/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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And the topic is back on the front burner! 
I hadn't ever really practiced it much and I am glad, I found reason to begin making time for just silent meditation again.
I can do in a noisy place, quiet helps though. The idea is, for me, to get into a sphere of stillness and let all thoughts pass around and by it. I don't entertain them.
Thats not easy for me because I love thinking 50 things at once.
Before, most all of my meditative time was focused on something, like what you do when you go to intuit/insight, or a form of shamanic journeying, or to defrag (sort and organize)
I lost an appreciation for how much can come from silencing the mind and just listening without thinking about what you hear. I got into an ignorant place of forgetting what can come from out of nothing. I pictured people in silent meditation as being in a "la deeeeeeerrrr" state and saw it as a passive waste of time if nothing is being thought. Thats silly thinking, I know.
At the time I posted this, I was realizing again all that can come from out of nothing and the silence and remembering how nature fills a void.
Consider how wise monks who practice a lot of silent meditation are. They may not be book knowledge smart, yet they are wise in the nature of things. I think, when we let the mind go silent and create voids (extra ram space) nature fills it in with its wisdom.
Silent meditation gets a thumbs up from me.
I was hoping others would jump in on the memory analogy stuff. I lost where I was with that insight. It's been a while since this post went up.
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5313637 - 02/18/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"nature fills it in with its wisdom" I dig!  I try and get to the silent void once a day, Its a weird proccess for me, Its like you say it gets filled with wisdom.
Do you feel a connection to the wisdom imparted and your life?
Memory is something I tackle for my deep journey's, at this moment, I cant grasp it with english at all. lol
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: Springs]
#5313716 - 02/18/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love the sort of intuitive memory that arises that you have no words for because you didn't learn what you remembered through words. Thats a neat feeling.
Like with what I referred to as shamanic journeying. It was something I just started doing naturally and later, when I read some stuff on it, related to a different search, I was like, "hey, thats what I do" It's weird and fun to pull from the deeper memory banks of the akasha, collective conscious, unconscious, past lives, parallel lives, future lives, where ever it comes from.
So much of my life is based on making the connections that I wouldn't be able to tell the difference anymore. The multi dimensional merge- he he he
Thanks for relating. 
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5313774 - 02/18/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you too!
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5316771 - 02/19/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wonderful thread. 
"Knowledge speaks. Wisdom listens."
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5318927 - 02/20/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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gettinjiggywithit said: Right now as I type, this post is taking up no space on the forum. I am creating new "potential" space as I type. Where is it coming from? I can make lots more of it to by holding my finger on the enter key
Is that like what happens when we engage in silent meditation? Doe we create pure potential empty space to be filled in later?
When I hit the send button, I will have added more space to the forum. Why do I think thats cool to contemplate? 
How much potential space is here in this forum? Is it limited to memory? How does that relate to our minds space? Is it infinite or limited to memory? Can memory be added to create more space? How? What happens to mental space when we forget and then remember? When we think new thoughts do we increase mental space or is it based just on available memory?
Does the brain have a limit to its memory capacity? Is it infinite? Just playing around with these ideas and find it all curious.
I think one should really consider the whole system or set that one is using as there is more than one infinity and ordering rationale. Each set is a topography which can change based on its own internal logic, or not. Also one should consider that the space is demarcated by the shell surrounding it. Therefore all logics are like turtles, merely crawling along....
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Re: Limited versus infinite space-play with me [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5318972 - 02/20/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Information storage and computation are limited to the potential of calculation. Even the atoms within rocks calculate. Otherwise how would its mass, density be found?
There is an astronomical limit to the potential of calculation. Something expanding TOWARDS infinite does not reach it... it can only approach it. An infinitely expanding container only expands its borders.
-------------------- As the life of a candle, my wick will burn out. But, the fire of my mind shall beam into infinite.

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