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German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike
    #5122213 - 12/30/05 01:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike
By Martin Walker
UPI Editor
Published December 30, 2005


WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration is preparing its NATO allies for a possible military strike against suspected nuclear sites in Iran in the New Year, according to German media reports, reinforcing similar earlier suggestions in the Turkish media.

The Berlin daily Der Tagesspiegel this week quoted "NATO intelligence sources" who claimed that the NATO allies had been informed that the United States is currently investigating all possibilities of bringing the mullah-led regime into line, including military options. This "all options are open" line has been President George W Bush's publicly stated policy throughout the past 18 months.


But the respected German weekly Der Spiegel notes "What is new here is that Washington appears to be dispatching high-level officials to prepare its allies for a possible attack rather than merely implying the possibility as it has repeatedly done during the past year."

The German news agency DDP cited "Western security sources" to claim that CIA Director Porter Goss asked Turkey's premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide political and logistic support for air strikes against Iranian nuclear and military targets. Goss, who visited Ankara and met Erdogan on Dec. 12, was also reported to have to have asked for special cooperation from Turkish intelligence to help prepare and monitor the operation.

The DDP report added that Goss had delivered to the Turkish prime minister and his security aides a series of dossiers, one on the latest status of Iran's nuclear development and another containing intelligence on new links between Iran and al-Qaida.

DDP cited German security sources who added that the Turks had been assured of a warning in advance if and when the military strikes took place, and had also been given "a green light" to mount their own attacks on the bases in Iran of the PKK, (Kurdish Workers party), which Turkey sees as a separatist group responsible for terrorist attacks inside Turkey.

Goss's visit to the Turkish capital followed the rising international concern over recent statements by the new Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Israel should be "wiped off the map," denying the existence of Holocaust, and suggesting that Israel's Jewish population might be re-located to Europe.

In a December 23 report, the DDP agency quoted an anonymous but "high-ranking German military official" telling their reporter: "I would be very surprised if the Americans, in the mid-term, didn't take advantage of the opportunity delivered by Tehran. The Americans have to attack Iran before the country can develop nuclear weapons. After that would be too late."

The DDP report also said that several friendly Arab governments, including Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman and Pakistan, had also been informed in general terms that the Pentagon was preparing contingency plans, including "the option of air strikes," in the event of the new Iranian government precipitating a crisis.

Arab diplomatic sources have told United Press International that they have been given no briefings on any policy change beyond President Bush's "all option are open."

Bush's most recent such statement in public came on Aug. 13, during an interview at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, when he told Israeli TV: "As I say, all options are on the table. The use of force is the last option for any president and, you know, we've used force in the recent past to secure our country."

Other NATO sources have told United Press International that "all this may be mood music, a way to step up the diplomatic pressure on Tehran."

It is possible that leaks from NATO and German security sources are part of a ploy to convince the Iranian government that the Americans and their NATO allies are in dead earnest when they say a nuclear-armed Iran would not be tolerated, and that Iran had better start negotiating seriously.

But the German media speculation about the supposed U.S. plans has been fueled by a number of high-profile visits to Turkey this month, including trips by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, by the CIA's Porter Goss and by the FBI Director Robert Mueller, who also delivered U.S. intelligence reports on Iranian backing for PKK operations aimed against Turkey. There have also been some significant Turkish visits to Washington, as reported by Der Spiegel.

"Two weeks ago, Yasar Buyukanit, the commander of the Turkish army and probable future chief of staff of the country's armed forces, flew to Washington. After the visit he made a statement that relations between the Turkish army and the American army were once again on an excellent footing," Der Spiegel reported Friday.

"Buyukanit's warm and fuzzy words, contrasted greatly with his past statements that if the United States and the Kurds in northern Iraq proved incapable of containing the PKK in the Kurd-dominated northern part of the country and preventing it from attacking Turkey, Buyukanit would march into northern Iraq himself," the German weekly added.

The CIA Director's Dec. 12 call on the Turkish prime minister last for over an hour, far longer than customary for a mere courtesy call, and followed an even longer meeting with senior staff of MIT, Turkish intelligence. The Turkish Daily Cumhuriyet reported on December 13: "Goss also asked Ankara to be ready for a possible U.S. air operation against Iran and Syria."

Der Spiegel noted Friday that the latest high-level visitor to the Turkish premier was NATO Secretary-General Jaap De Hoop Scheffer. This is not unusual, since Turkey is a member of NATO, but the coincidence of these various trips prompted Spiegel to comment "the number of American and NATO security officials heading to Ankara has increased dramatically."

"In Berlin, the issue is largely being played down," Der Spiegel reported Friday. "During his inaugural visit with U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in Washington last week, the possibility of a U.S. air strike against Iran 'had not been an issue,' for new German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, a Defense Ministry spokesman told Spiegel."

The original story in the German press which provoked the wider media furore was written for the DDP agency by a veteran reporter on security and intelligence matters, Udo Ulfkotte, who has in the past been criticized in the German media for being "too close to sources at Germany's foreign intelligence agency, the BND" (Bundesnachrichtendienst).

At the same time, Ulfkotte has himself come under scrutiny by German security services, and his home and offices have been repeatedly searched in the course of inquiries into allegations that he had published official secrets.
http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051230-124328-9385r


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5122438 - 12/30/05 02:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wow So turkey has the greenlight to attack Kurdish PKK. I wonder how things in Iraq will change.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5123590 - 12/30/05 06:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is all in the name of freedom.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: badchad]
    #5123619 - 12/30/05 06:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is all in the name of democracy


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5123759 - 12/30/05 07:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Bush should ask Congress to debate the best plan of action on Iran and its Nuclear ambitions and formulate a plan of action, so he doesn't have to defend the Nation all by himself, like he has for the past 4 years.

Let the Liberals present their plan and let all of America see just how weak these spineless worms on the left are.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: SourceLimit]
    #5123825 - 12/30/05 08:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No it's all in the name of making sure there is only one country in the Middle East who has nuclear leverage over the others, Israel. Not to mention Israel has the most secret nuclear program in the world. But they are never subject to massive inspections or media attention...hmmmm


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5123853 - 12/30/05 08:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

When the jews say "JUMP!" the neo-cons say "HOW HIGH?". Neocons make my penile curcumference increase. They're such real men.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: lwm]
    #5123891 - 12/30/05 08:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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When the jews say "JUMP!" the neo-cons say "HOW HIGH?". Neocons make my penile curcumference increase. They're such real men.




You're a homo? Not that there's anything wrong with that.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5123907 - 12/30/05 08:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The U.S and Israel should do it alone. Leave NATO out of it. There is no more western alliance. The U.S and Europe have parted ways, and we owe them no explanation, no plans, and absolutely NO say in any military action we conduct.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5123942 - 12/30/05 08:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It will be a damn shame if this happens, since we'll be doing it alone.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #5124018 - 12/30/05 09:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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It will be a damn shame if this happens, since we'll be doing it alone.




Even if 100 other countries were on board we'd still be doing 99% of the work. What is the big deal?


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: looner2]
    #5124022 - 12/30/05 09:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's a big deal b/c one of these days the other UN countries are going to get sick of us invading countries when they are not a legitimate threat, and put economic sanctions on us. I, for one, do not feel like living under a system of rations.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #5124032 - 12/30/05 09:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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It's a big deal b/c one of these days the other UN countries are going to get sick of us invading countries when they are not a legitimate threat, and put economic sanctions on us. I, for one, do not feel like living under a system of rations.




First off, don't worry about economic sanctions. We are fine. The most the UN could ever do would be bitch. And bitch is what they've been doing for the past 15 years. They no longer need us to die for them against the Soviets.

Second, putting legitimate and UN in the same sentence is a joke, right?


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: looner2]
    #5124049 - 12/30/05 09:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Second, putting legitimate and UN in the same sentence is a joke, right?




In your and my opinion, yes. Unfortunately, there are many people in high governmental positions around the globe who seem to disagree with us.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #5124066 - 12/30/05 09:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Second, putting legitimate and UN in the same sentence is a joke, right?




In your and my opinion, yes. Unfortunately, there are many people in high governmental positions around the globe who seem to disagree with us.




High governmental positions of other nations? Of course. No one likes THE superpower. What weapon do they use against us? Hate speech towards the weak minded of our nation in an attempt to make us feel shame for taking action that we deem necessary. Don't be a casualty!


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: looner2]
    #5124074 - 12/30/05 09:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't agree that war with Iran is necessary, though. I would say it is even less necessary than it was to go to Iraq, which I also did not support.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: looner2]
    #5124252 - 12/30/05 10:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I hope you go to war with China or North Korea. You always talk like your nation is so strong and tough, but all all you do is beat the shit of of little hack job armys, and you don't even do that too well considering your might military. I'd like to see you fight a real one.


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: barfightlard]
    #5124287 - 12/30/05 10:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Why would you like to see that? Don't you want this world to continue existing?


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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: barfightlard]
    #5124474 - 12/30/05 11:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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bellylard said:
You always talk like your nation is so strong and tough,

I'd like to see you fight a real one.




You mean like Canada?



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Re: German media: U.S. preparing Iran strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #5125337 - 12/31/05 08:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Redstorm said:
I don't agree that war with Iran is necessary, though. I would say it is even less necessary than it was to go to Iraq, which I also did not support.




But if it does happen, what will you do? Placate to the U.N/E.U crowd? Steal their arguments and apologize to the world for what America has done?


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