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Offlinestoner4life
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Tripping depressed
    #5112112 - 12/27/05 05:25 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Ive always heard about when going into trip go in with a open mind and make sure you feel happy. But if one is depressed is it bad to trip alone? And if so why? Sorry for the stupid ? Just looking out for a friend.


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: stoner4life]
    #5112137 - 12/27/05 05:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Well I shroomed after getting really suicidal. I had a bad trip for the first 60 minuets of it then realized how great and important my life is and had a blast and laughed and made sounds because I got so fucked I couldn't talk. Just make sure he isn't alone. Dont want another tripping and suicide thing on the news!


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: mikeownow]
    #5112202 - 12/27/05 05:40 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

it doesnt work when you are depressed, if you really want to avoid a bad trip then you should wait till you figure your shit out


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: Floydexperiment]
    #5112208 - 12/27/05 05:41 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

He is just worried that his friend might kill him self but all his friend needs is someone there to stop him if he tries to do it


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: stoner4life]
    #5112358 - 12/27/05 06:09 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

the problem with tripping alone is that unless one has iron control over their mind, the background thoughts become loops.
Tripping depressed can be a useful tool, to analyze and think on what is bothering someone, but it's a double edged sword, because one can fall into the negative very, very easily, ESPECIALLY on decent/high doses.

I'd advise against it, based off of prior experience.


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #5112364 - 12/27/05 06:11 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I have tripped depressed and alone before. After the trip, I wasn't depressed anymore.


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5112370 - 12/27/05 06:12 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Than describe what happened.
Because your post as stands provides no information.


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #5112418 - 12/27/05 06:28 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

well i kind of see what hes saying, ive felt depress for a very long time, years, but i have my ups n down u know, its broken down into som days so and some days not, but since ive been this way so friggin long, i must be just depressed in general, thoughts of suicide all that, so...maybe not THAT DAY when ur feeling ur worst isint sucha good idea...but at the same time i can see how it MIGHT flip ur depression into somethin magical, i felt great after my first 6 gram level 4 trip, this is what i suggest to EVERY ONE.. well whos unsure about effects and all that and this prob and that pob.. listen...

do ur shrooms, a nice dose.. fuck around for about 30 mins till u feel the effects comin on... take ur ass up to ur room( make sure NO ONES HOME) get out ur cd collection, tapes, a tracks, what have u.. putem on, turn that shit up, and let the music take ya where ya wanna go...thats all, u dont have to be in woods, with friends at a party, at work, school, in a box with a fox, or on a boat with a goat, sit in ur room in one spot till the shits over, trust me.. it was one of the greatest expericences of my life..oh and if u do start to worry or feel some anxiety or somethin comin on to fuck up ur trip, cuz stuff fucks up ur life and thats just the way ur life is, then just expect it, fight it and let it go,dont let one shitty thot ruin what could possibly be one of the best experiences of ur life


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: caboomers]
    #5112437 - 12/27/05 06:35 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

The problem lies with the possibility of latching onto the negative thoughts rather than the positive.
It's a risk, either way, but like you said, it can turn a mindstate on it's ass.

Still better to have someone to talk to around, just in case.


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: caboomers]
    #5112747 - 12/27/05 08:01 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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caboomers said:
well i kind of see what hes saying, ive felt depress for a very long time, years, but i have my ups n down u know, its broken down into som days so and some days not, but since ive been this way so friggin long, i must be just depressed in general, thoughts of suicide all that, so...maybe not THAT DAY when ur feeling ur worst isint sucha  good idea...but at the same time i can see how it MIGHT flip ur depression into somethin magical, i felt great after my first 6 gram level 4 trip, this is what i suggest to EVERY ONE.. well whos unsure about effects and all that and this prob and that pob.. listen...

do ur shrooms, a nice dose.. fuck around for about 30 mins till u feel the effects comin on... take ur ass up to ur room( make sure NO ONES HOME) get out ur cd collection, tapes, a tracks, what have u.. putem on, turn that shit up, and let the music take ya where ya wanna go...thats all, u dont have to be in woods, with friends at a party, at work, school, in a box with a fox, or on a boat with a goat, sit in ur room in one spot till the shits over, trust me.. it was one of the greatest expericences of my life..oh and if u do start to worry or feel some anxiety or somethin comin on to fuck up ur trip, cuz stuff fucks up ur life and thats just the way ur life is, then just expect it, fight it and let it go,dont let one shitty thot ruin what could possibly be one of the best experiences of ur life




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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: Kerr]
    #5112882 - 12/27/05 08:33 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Im just concerned about my friend. Its all good now because he has decided to wait. Thank you everyone for the quick respones.


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: stoner4life]
    #5113226 - 12/27/05 09:47 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I say that if your friend is SERIOUSLY depressed then he should stay away from psych's. It could help him, but it could also send him over the edge (mentally or physically).

If your friend is just having a crappy month or is stuck in a rut, then it probably won't be so bad, and it could get him out of the rut... but I would still advise against it.

Despite how most trippers talk, tripping can't solve all of your emotional and mental hang-ups. It has the potential to in the proper environment (ideally a psychedelic therapy session or guided voyage by a REAL shaman) but when you fuck around on your own then you never know what the result will be.


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Re: Tripping depressed [Re: dr0mni]
    #5114720 - 12/28/05 10:03 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I was told that I had mild depression and that it was likely that I've had it my whole life more or less straight from birth, this conclusion was based off a 3 week period in which I was observed and tested by a psychologist, as well as a background history of my life given by both my parents. It was concluded that I did not appear to be any risk to myself or others so they didn't put me on any medications, etc although it was advised that I see a therapist, I decided not to bother. (I've never really liked psychologists/therapists and never felt that depression (to the extent that I supposedly have it) is not something that should have pills thrown at it, bessides most of the symptoms they describe can be found in most people)

Anyways, it's been a few years since then and I've been shrooming for nearly a year now. Occasionally when tripping I'll have a moment where everything just seems to almost stop and a couple thoughts will creep into my mind and they'll leave me feeling empty and sometimes worthless. At this point the only thing I've found that seems to help is to try to look at things from a different perspective than I was looking at them. Rather than making a big list of my flaws, try to make a list of everything I'm doing right, if this doesn't work then I just let go and let the thoughts and feelings absorb me into their world, let them make me feel however they want me to feel, and try to use the experience to come to terms with and understand the feelings and on some occasions I've managed to find an answer on how to change things, or I'll realize that things were alright all along and that I was just making a big deal over something that wasn't that big of a problem in the first place.

Anyways, I guess that what I'm trying to say is that tripping can be one of the most rewarding experiences ever. It's that feeling of lying there and just allowing yourself to get sucked into your thoughts until the only thing that exists to you is what you're thinking and feeling, and then the amazing feeling you get when you realize "hey, this isn't really soo bad, sure it's not perfect, but there's just soo much other good stuff who cares" and then feeling as if a big light has just been aimed at life (I have noticed that things have a tendency to get brighter or darker depending on mood swings with shrooms, has anyone else noticed this?) and that feeling that once this is all over, and when I wake up tomorrow I'm going to be able to change something or I'm going to know something that I needed to know that I didn't know before that makes me keep coming back to shrooms.

I have never had a full out bad trip, but I've had plenty of moments where I've felt like everything was about to go straight to hell but I managed to keep myself together and it all worked out in the end. Personally I think that these can really turn your problems around and help you come to understand your problems. But at the same time I feel it's only fair to warn you that it wont be an easy experience, it wont be full of pretty colours and rainbows, and no matter how strong willed or in control you think you are the experience will probably be very intense.

Each time I hear someone discussing the psychological benefits of shrooming I'm reminded of my first solo-trip, there is a trip report somewhere on this site (a;though upon further analysis of the trip I really don't feel that the report does it justice).


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