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Kaleidoscope
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'cid by usps!?
#5112111 - 12/27/05 05:25 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok...so I know this guy and he's a good friend of mine. I was recently talking to him for the first time in a few years cause he just moved back to my state. He was telling my he mails lsd to people and gets payment through paypal. Now this struck me as a very odd way to sell drugs that is not safe at all. After all...if they found the product, they would have the address of the buyer and seller. lsd hits are so low of an amount of chemical that I would think it would be rather hard to tell that there was lsd in the package. so heres my question.
Is this even remotely safe?
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Damn it sounds like a way I would want to get cid how do I get into this. (I am not a cop) =P I don't belive a cop can say that. (I am not a narc). How does it work do I qualify yet?
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: mikeownow]
#5112285 - 12/27/05 05:54 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depends of how they are packaged.
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Kaleidoscope
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well...what would be an example of a good way to package it...or are you saying that it depends on the form of the lsd eg. blotters, sugar cubes, liquid?
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mikeownow
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Quote:
Kaleidoscope said: well...what would be an example of a good way to package it...or are you saying that it depends on the form of the lsd eg. blotters, sugar cubes, liquid?
I think he means if it is put into a box as to an envilope maybe?
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It's the paypal traces that would concern me. Given blotter, cid is notoriously easy to move.
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Kaleidoscope
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well...I know that he isn't moving blotter but rather sugar cubes. I have no idea why he doesn't get it on blotter...he said he gets it dropped in front of him...
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I'd still be worried about the paper trail involved with paypal. That's a direct link between you and he, unless you have a falsified account. Even then, the address (unless likewised falsified) is STILL a link.
SOunds shady as hell dude. If he's in the state, why not go for a drive and pick it up? Personally, i'd have nothing to do with it.
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playwithguns
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How would you send sugar cubes tho, if a postal worker saw them what would he think? Don't know. But if he get's busted via USPS worker and the cops find out about the paypal transactions, everybody would be havin a knock at their front door.
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Kaleidoscope
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I'm not buying shit from him via mail...I'm just worried my buddy is gonna go to jail for a long ass time.
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With the paypal trail.... quite possibly. Dissuade him from that method of money transfer.
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Good call on the paypal. Also, i would switch from USPS to UPS overnight delivery.
Two reasons: 1. Sending or receiving drug using the US postal service is a specifically illegal practice. 2. I work for UPS. There are absolutely no questions about what is inside any box, unless it has a hazmat label on it. I say overnight because it would get there real quick (no LSD degrading) and it is handled more carefully in the overnight service.
oh ya, reason 3, since i work there, i could steal it (joke!)
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: ]
#5113641 - 12/27/05 11:50 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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this would be like my dream AH i could just order it in the mail ! but alas this doesnt sound to safe... fuck the world right ? im sure it would work for awhile , but eventually a screw up could occur..someone gets some acid who was just looking for grandmas cookies and BAM your friend is in jail as long as Oj is black.
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i have a friend that's done this...
not w/ sugar cubes.. but w/ blotter.. just put it behind a CD case or in a card or whatever really..
the biggest thing, he says, is not handling a lot of pot or something before hand... because the LSD can't be detected on it's own.. but if the CD or bag or whatever is around pot, it will pick up the odor... (or coke or meth or heroin, etc)
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: Yoschie99]
#5114478 - 12/28/05 08:06 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Something to read about... http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/wanted/scavelli.htm http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/wanted/wilson_f.htm
Blotter could very easily be mailed(in a birthday card, cd case, etc) but sugar cubes and microdots are much more noticable when/if scanned.
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Acid travels beautifully via USPS.
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Tell your friend he is a fool for using paypal due to the paper trail that leads directly to him. If he wants to use online payment methods, tell him to use egold...it's the way to go for these types of purchases. With egold, you can just make up a name and address for your account, so you don't have to use your own name. Anyways, you should seriously convince him NOT to use paypal...terrible idea.
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: kindadank]
#5115984 - 12/28/05 04:39 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Plus, Paypal (if they ever caught wind of him doing something illegal with it) will shut it down pretty quickly.
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: drtyfrnk]
#5118105 - 12/29/05 07:16 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Western Union is much better than Paypal if you ask me.
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a. the most scary thing is the paypal payment. i think this is number 1 where id be scared the most.
b. if your friend knows how to wrap shit the right way, take care of the addy, ONLY mail through USPS. then all i have to say is "i know someone who has done this before" its works perfectly and theres no need to be scared!
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Overnight letter with postal money orders would be better than stupid paypal
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he is a fool, cid is not looked upon kindly. paypal? what the fuck? the mail, what the fuck? Sugar cubes through the mail, what the fuck?
fools!
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Personally I doubt the seller is the direct recipient of the paypal $. Probably has someone who he runs the transactions through to avoid any direct link, besides maybe the other person.
It could be done safetly, not to mention fast/effeciently. I'd buy a subscription or two...
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: Grok]
#5161712 - 01/10/06 06:30 AM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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whatever.
yeah setting it up in an associates name isn't going to bring any trouble to you.
yeah right, when your pal rolls over.
also doesn't pay pal send yuo a check, how are you going to cash it or depsoit it without your anem attached some how.
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I used to know a gentleman who recieved USPS priority mail envelopes bi-weekly these envelopes contained a few sheets of phenomanal acid with several pieces of paper always worked out for him of course, this was before paypal, they sent their money the old fashioned way: western union w/ a secret question
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: muse_sick]
#5312668 - 02/18/06 02:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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*Eyes slowly open wide and grin spreads across face*
This old hippie thought cid was extinct. one of you kind folks should sign me up for this kind of service. I mean dayum...
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I think it would be a very simple thing to accomplish without much trouble. Although, do I really need to state the consequences? Everybody needs to be very careful. cid will put you in jail for way too long with just a simple mistake. PayPal is a big mistake. He should sacrifice convenience for safety. I was looking at the DEA website, and if I deciphered their gibberish correctly, 1-9 grms of LSD(mixture) will put you in jail for no less than 5 years. I'm assuming that "mixture" includes paper, so if you have one sheet of blotter, your going to jail for 5 years. I only bring all this up, because the mail service, although statistics would make you believe otherwise, is not the wisest choice. Everything can and will go wrong, no matter how safe you think your being.
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Re: 'cid by usps!? [Re: Footprint]
#5317329 - 02/19/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I saw this too, after weighing a 2.5x"2.5" piece of paper, I got .3 grams. Double it for heavier water paper, and count in the fact that you need to be selling. This is about on par with their standards, only when on paper.
But lets take a step back. For some reason these fucktards say 1-9 grams or HITS. These standards are too fucked up to hold with a good lawyer. This could be 1,000 hits of blotter, one dose of sugar cube, or 90,000 doses of crystal.
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In terms of safety, I would think that USPS would be much better than UPS or other private carriers, as long as whatever it is being sent is sent First Class.
It is my understanding that First Class Mail is protected from unwarranted search/seizure (4th Amendment). Since UPS/FedEx/Whatever are private carriers, they can fuck the 4th amendment all they want.
If the feds suspect whomever is involved, they can still get a warrant and search the mail. So it's risky with USPS, but its hella risky with private carriers.
One should spend the extra few cents for first class. Don't be cheap and send via parcel post :p
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