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Canadian Liberals are losing it.
    #5111539 - 12/27/05 04:03 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

TORONTO -- A high-ranking official within the Liberal Party of Canada resigned yesterday after he called NDP Leader Jack Layton an "a--hole" and compared Layton's wife Olivia Chow to a dog on his Internet blog.

Mike Klander, executive vice-president of the federal Liberal party's Ontario wing, stepped down after photographs of Chow, the NDP candidate for the Toronto riding of Trinity-Spadina, and a chow chow dog were posted on his blog dated Dec. 9 under the heading "Separated at Birth."

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/Election/2005/12/27/1369336-sun.html








Those diverse, inclusive, tolerant, multicultural and compassionate Canadian liberals never fail to impress me.







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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5111543 - 12/27/05 04:05 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Wow, so someone lost his temper and acted childish. Certainly no one who posts here would do such a thing.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Silversoul]
    #5111553 - 12/27/05 04:09 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Certainly...


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5111744 - 12/27/05 05:37 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
Those diverse, inclusive, tolerant, multicultural and compassionate Canadian liberals never fail to impress me.



Ah, the old  "Hasty Generalization".  Because one Canadian Liberal is losing it, ALL "Canadian Liberals are losing it"!  :eek:  Does this logic apply to American conservatives as well?  Because I know this one American conservative who... blah, blah, blah  :stoned:


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #5127726 - 01/01/06 12:21 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

hey, remember two years ago when mark latham called john howard a dickhead in the australian campaign. the aussies rather liked it. latham also had the balls to smoke pot inside the parliament building after hours one night. i wish he had done it to make a statement, instead of just to smoke some pot and hope he wouldnt get caught.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: nonick]
    #5127846 - 01/01/06 01:29 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I see nothing wrong with what he did, in a position of no power I would do something of that caliber and I beleive so would most people. That just goes to show that he isn't better than everybody else so he can more properly represent them.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: ThePredator]
    #5133869 - 01/03/06 02:57 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Totally off topic but this thread reminded me of that time when Cretian was attacked by that guy in his house...lol

Does anyone remember that?

The guy broke in with a knife and old man Cretian cuffed him in the ear and he ran off...

I'm still laughing about that...


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134205 - 01/03/06 09:26 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

lonestar, you'll be disapointed to learn that the Canadian liberal party is actually quite centrist.

The NDP, who Olivia Chow is a member of, is far more to the left than they are.

Liberal party members often criticize the NDP for their leftist ways, and this is an example of that in action.

I'm glad to hear you're now revelling in people getting in shit for harassing lefties.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Phluck]
    #5134258 - 01/03/06 10:28 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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lonestar, you'll be disapointed to learn that the Canadian liberal party is actually quite centrist.

The NDP, who Olivia Chow is a member of, is far more to the left than they are.

Liberal party members often criticize the NDP for their leftist ways, and this is an example of that in action.

I'm glad to hear you're now revelling in people getting in shit for harassing lefties.






IMO the Conservatives, Liberals and New Democrats ? could be "best described as left, more left and most left," relative to America's Republicans and Democrats.



So yes I enjoy that Canada's Liberal party(Commies Lite) are attacking the NDP (Commies.)


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134295 - 01/03/06 10:55 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Uh huh.

So then, could you explain to me what it is about the Conservatives that you find to be leftist.

Or do you actually know anything about their policies at all?

Also, do you understand the difference between one guy posting a juvenile insult in his personal blog, and a party attacking another party?

Why do you keep posting out of context shit about Canadian politics? It seems like you're really fucking angry at Canadians for some reason... Also, I've never once seen you write anything more than a couple sentences at a time. Do you have any ideas or opinions of your own? When you think about stuff, do you have to turn on the TV so that something is actually going through your head?


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Phluck]
    #5134324 - 01/03/06 11:21 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

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Do you have any ideas or opinions of your own? When you think about stuff, do you have to turn on the TV so that something is actually going through your head?




You seem to be angry. :rolleyes:

I admit that Canadian politics are new to me, but I am interested in this election. I will be rooting for the conservatives.(left lite)
and even if they win I seriously doubt they will  roll back Universal heath care or your tough gun control laws.

I would like to see a better relationship between us, (states-Canada) then we had with the Liberals/Paul Martin.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134338 - 01/03/06 11:29 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Again, what is it about their policies that makes you call them "left lite"?


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Phluck]
    #5134343 - 01/03/06 11:32 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

"even if they win I seriously doubt they will roll back Universal heath care or your tough gun control laws."

IMO real conservatives would not support that.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134437 - 01/03/06 12:12 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

They don't support it, actually.

But they probably wouldn't eliminate it right away, because it's not something you can do overnight, and no matter what your beliefs are, you can't implement them willy-nilly when it goes against the opinion of the majority.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134667 - 01/03/06 02:02 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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I would like to see a better relationship between us, (states-Canada) then we had with the Liberals/Paul Martin.




It takes compromise by both sides to have a healthy relationship.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Redstorm]
    #5134703 - 01/03/06 02:19 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

yes like co-operation on missile defense.....


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134728 - 01/03/06 02:26 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

wow - you seriously know little about Canadian politics. You see the word "liberal" in your daily intake of internet news headlines and get all excited not knowing that it means something else up north.

:lol:


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134747 - 01/03/06 02:38 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Actually the Conservatives are quietly backing the "two-tiered" system of health care, one public and shitty for poor folk, that is covered by taxes, and another that is private, and for pay by individual or insurance.

The pro's and con's of a system like this is another entire thread, so I won't get into it...other then to say that I believe it would surely lead to a system that mirrors the American one in the long run...

The conservatives in our country could be seen as liberal compared to the American liberals, so I sort of see how lonestar would look at them as "liberal-lite"...

Our conservatives realize that our public will not stand for a highly conservative agenda, so they are forced to be this way for now.  However I think that if they had the reins, then they would push for a more conservative platform then they are currently campaigning on...

But thank god, I can't see them gaining a majority in Parliament anytime soon...

I like a minority liberal government myself, it keeps the libs in check to have the extra opposition, yet Harper and his boys don't have the strength to act strongly on terrible things...like the U.S "missile shield"... :wink:


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Phluck]
    #5134767 - 01/03/06 02:43 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

There really isn't a whole lot policy wise seperating the Liberals and Conservatives in my opinion.

Day Care
Gay Marriage Vote (which will never be overturned on a free vote anyways)

Everything else to me is just slight variations on how to approach tax cuts to crime prevention.

Even if the Conservatives win they'll end up with a minority government which will prevent them from implementing any of these 'boogey man' policies intent destroying our social structure.

And there is no way that the Conservatives or any other party would scrap Healthcare.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Noetical]
    #5134788 - 01/03/06 02:49 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Our conservatives realize that our public will not stand for a highly conservative agenda, so they are forced to be this way for now. However I think that if they had the reins, then they would push for a more conservative platform then they are currently campaigning on...

The conservatives aren't posing they're evolving to better represent their constituents. They're in a transition from abortion and morality to taxes and jobs.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Vvellum]
    #5134797 - 01/03/06 02:53 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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bi0 said:
wow - you seriously know little about Canadian politics. You see the word "liberal" in your daily intake of internet news headlines and get all excited not knowing that it means something else up north.

:lol:





WOW - enlighten me. for example are the liberals ANTI SAME-SEX MARRIAGE????


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134803 - 01/03/06 02:55 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Maybe if the US didn't keep pressuring us to adopt their kind of drug laws, or violate NAFTA rulings we'd get along better.

Would missile defense even work, or is it just an unfeasible pipe dream to waste money and protect you from an imaginary enemy.

We don't want to have to waste our money on your goofy weird missile defense projects.

The US government is the bigger problem here, imho.

Would you agree that when you decide to start a trade program, that when there's a dispute and a panel of judges in that program make a ruling, you should follow that ruling, even if its not in your favor? Well, the US doesn't think so. I'm sure if the ruling was in their favor, they'd say that it was fairly decided. Of course, the ruling wasn't in their favor, so they ignored it. How fucking arrogant is that?


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134820 - 01/03/06 02:59 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

You gonna pay attention to Jim Harris when he's in TO on Jan. 6th?

*directed towards Phluck


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134821 - 01/03/06 03:00 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

God forbid someone be in favor of same sex marriage! If that happens the entire world would collapse! Everyone would turn gay and there would be no more babies!

There are some liberals who aren't in favor of same sex marriage, but for the most part they are.

But in Canada, it's not as big a deal in the US, because we've actually done quite a good job of separating the church and state. According to our charter of rights and freedoms, you can't discriminate against gays, but Americans like to legislate the sex lives of other people. That's why they've still got laws against sodomy in some states. Canada is more of a free country.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Prajna]
    #5134832 - 01/03/06 03:03 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Prajna said:
"the Conservatives are quietly backing the "two-tiered" system of health care"

interesting i did not know that.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134893 - 01/03/06 03:20 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

In my opinion, Stephen Harper is a goon. I will not be voting for him. I especially dont agree with his Health Care plan.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134910 - 01/03/06 03:24 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

IMO, Canada is doing the right thing by not accepting a missile-defense system. Not only does it seem foolish to me to waste billions (or even trillions) or dollars on a system that may work. Not only that, but who wants to nuke Canada anyways?


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: SilentSeed]
    #5134911 - 01/03/06 03:24 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

?There will be no private, parallel system,? Mr. Harper said. ?We can, and will, achieve better results for patients and maintain the essentials of our system of public health insurance while maintaining our universal public health care system.?


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: SilentSeed]
    #5134915 - 01/03/06 03:25 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

so does everyone have the same Health care now? (Universal heath care)
or do the elitist/liberals like Paul Martin have private doctors?

who are you going to vote for? (greens) i had forgotten about them.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: SilentSeed]
    #5134989 - 01/03/06 03:37 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I'm not a big fan of the Green Party in Canada.

They're kind of a libertarian thing up here, so they're all about cutting a lot of social programs and stuff.

I'm not in Toronto on the 6th, but I wouldn't mind hearing him speak, out of interest.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5134995 - 01/03/06 03:39 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

There is still universal health care.

Just out of curiosity, what prompts you to call Paul Martin an elitist?


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Phluck]
    #5135037 - 01/03/06 03:52 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

for example a lot of the liberals who want gun control in America have body guards with guns. i consider that an elitist.

Paul Martin is Pro Universal Health Care, but i read somewhere that he goes to a private doctor in a private clinic.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander ? unless the gander is a limousine liberal.


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: Phluck]
    #5135194 - 01/03/06 04:27 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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I'm not a big fan of the Green Party in Canada.

They're kind of a libertarian thing up here, so they're all about cutting a lot of social programs and stuff.

I'm not in Toronto on the 6th, but I wouldn't mind hearing him speak, out of interest.




I thought they were pretty close to the NDP in their policies, other than a major tax one?


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5135484 - 01/03/06 05:58 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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for example a lot of the liberals who want gun control in America have body guards with guns. i consider that an elitist.

Paul Martin is Pro Universal Health Care, but i read somewhere that he goes to a private doctor in a private clinic.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander ? unless the gander is a limousine liberal.




Ummm, not usually they don't man...

It's not like that here, really I swear. You're used to seeing your presidents and senators with the secret service all around them and stuff, but it's really not like that here...

I can drive to Ottawa right now and sit on the steps of the Parliament building and wait for martin to get off work if I want to.

Last time I was there, there was a cop at the door, who I talked to for awhile about my drive down, and how boring his job was and stuff

We chatted for a bit, he even offered to take my girlfriend in so that she could use the bathroom, but we just went down the street instead...

Things here really are different then where you live...

And if Martin is getting health care and paying for it, then he is doing it in the states, or doing it under the table, because it is not legal here to pay for special care or anything...


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Re: Canadian Liberals are losing it. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5135781 - 01/03/06 07:21 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

a better example of the canadian liberals losing it
is their campaign to tighten cannibus laws as a result
of that whackjob ambushing those RCMP guys when they
came to check on his truck debt....just because he also
happened to have a grow op.

one shady credit company sends the cops out to clean up
their mess and the entire canadian cannabis culture is
supposed to go down the drain.


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