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Offlinenobodycares42
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No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do?
    #511136 - 01/05/02 03:12 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Ok I have no Pressure Cooker right now and need another way to sterilize my jars. What works the best? And how do I do it?
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: nobodycares42]
    #511152 - 01/05/02 03:23 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

If you are using BRF, you can boil in a large pot for 30 minutes. Here's a simple BRF TEK


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Offlineegolesss
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: nobodycares42]
    #511155 - 01/05/02 03:25 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Dude you have a lot of reading to do, no one will hand you a sack of mushrooms here, but they will point you tword the information....You can use a tight fiting pot with a washtowel on the bottom, search and you will find times of sterilization what to use how to use it ect...My friend grew mushrooms without posting anything, she just lurked and read for a few weeks, then sucess..........


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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: nobodycares42]
    #511176 - 01/05/02 03:49 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: World Spirit]
    #511181 - 01/05/02 03:57 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

30 minutes will do just fine. Grow log of jars boiled for 30 minutes. Peace.


Edited by boxtop703 (01/05/02 03:58 PM)


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Offlinencshroomer
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: nobodycares42]
    #511462 - 01/05/02 08:16 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

just go to Wal-Mart or K-Mart and pick one up for like 20 bucks...never had success boiling, but no problems w/ pressure cooker and got good shrooms fast and easy.


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OfflineVisigoth
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: nobodycares42]
    #511500 - 01/05/02 08:45 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Well what about rye grain? Is it necessary to pressure cook it or can u get away w. boiling it like brown rice flour? Thanks!!!

Vis


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Offlinegusb232
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: Visigoth]
    #511520 - 01/05/02 09:03 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

No, is the short answer and thats what most ppl will tell u.
but i think i might be possil if the rye was precooked properly and then boiled in jars for aprox. 45 min to germenate endospores then the next day keeping the pot covered, boil for another 45 to kill germinated spores.
i have never done this but as long as jars do not dry out then i dont see why it should not work.


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Offlinejuubou
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to d [Re: World Spirit]
    #511652 - 01/05/02 10:40 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

> Close the lid ontop of the pot. Low boil for 60 minutes (one hour).

Please note this point, kids -- LOW BOIL.


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OfflineMickyFinn
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: ]
    #512159 - 01/06/02 02:19 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

on your logged post boxtop, whats the temp for your incubation chamber and does it matter if you boil your jars for an hour? it doesnt appear to dry anything out, i can still see moisture build up on the side of the jars.


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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #512170 - 01/06/02 02:33 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Good eye! This batch was a bit on the moist side and as you can see they are not contaminated and are colonizing quite nicely. According to Shroomwizard, boiling longer than 30 minutes lowers the nutrient content, resulting in longer colonizing time. I don't know if that's true, but I see no need to boil beyond 30 mins. I incubate in temps between 84-87 and I never let them get hotter than 90. Peace.


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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: ]
    #512182 - 01/06/02 02:45 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

PF SUBSTRATE FORMULATION

Step 4. Heat the pot of water to a boil. Put the jars into the pot with the lid bands loose so that the steam can penetrate the jars quickly. The jars can sit in water but make sure boiling water can't slosh into the jars. Turn the heat down and GENTLY steam the jars at the lowest possible boil for an hour in a TIGHTLY covered pot (gas stoves are the easiest to control). A good tight fitting pot lid is essential for successful steaming.

whats up with this bit of info from FANATICUS?


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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #512185 - 01/06/02 02:52 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I've probably boiled 60 jars in the last couple of months, always for no longer than 30 minutes. I have had 3 jars come up with contam. That's a hell of a low contam rate. Good enough for me!


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    #512219 - 01/06/02 03:19 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: Anonymous]
    #512293 - 01/06/02 05:04 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Very well explained, thanks Mycotek.


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Offlinephyzikal11
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: ]
    #512645 - 01/06/02 09:51 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

For my 2 cents...I will add that Boxtop's coment (made a minute ago) is truly valid. My pet fish boil brf jars for abour 1 1/2 hrs, which resulted in colonization time of nearly 2 months. Pretty shitty! Thanks for the knowledge.


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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: phyzikal11]
    #1098341 - 11/30/02 12:08 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE! come on! your underestimating Walmart, or up here I use Canadian tires, hassle free return policy :smile: haha but a massive PC (well what you can afford) take it home carfully open it, use it (make sure you use a towl of the bottom, and even on the rack if it has one! I didnt and stained the bottom of the PC) then tape it back up, and return it! hahah fool proof! Walmart would take a piece of shit back (literally) as long as you had a recipt! hahah 


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OfflineAngry Mycologist
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: arcadium]
    #1098359 - 11/30/02 12:14 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Walmart would take a piece of shit back (literally) as long as you had a recipt! hahah




Rofl.  :grin:  I think I am going to try this....


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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: arcadium]
    #1098541 - 11/30/02 02:05 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, this post was almost a year old, what the hell are you do dragging this one out? It wasn't even that intresting of a post back in january. Besides, what you recommend is a shitty thing to do, I mean it will work, but it doesn't seem good for your karma.


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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1098921 - 11/30/02 05:03 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Karma . talk to walmart about karma and see how many times you get stabbed in the back.


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OfflineSHR00M0L0GIST
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Re: No Pressure Cooker to sterilize jars what to do? [Re: Legoulash]
    #1100518 - 12/01/02 08:53 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

why the hell would you buy a pressure cooker and take it back? Geez... whats this world comming to? you are the type of person that buys a dress for prom then takes it back the next day. I agree, thats just bad karma.


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