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Sleeping bag
    #5104861 - 12/25/05 01:38 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Alright, so this past summer i travelled east across canada, south and back west.. riding trains and hitch hiking with a $20 dollar +10celsius sleeping bag.

It worked, it ripped, i didnt care. It dried easily, it was smaller than a loaf of bread, and very light...

however, there's no way i could sleep in my underware in it. Ive never tried liners or anything like that..

This summer, ill be travelling, do festivals, living in the woods or urban living... for 5-7months and want something adequete for North america in spring/summer. Light weight, compressable, and no more than $350 canadian...

ive been looking at some Northface ones..:
http://www.thenorthface.com/opencms/opencms/tnf/gear.jsp?site=CA&model=A653

I dont know much about fill... or balancing coldweather sustainability vs. camping in the heat in the summer.

advice?


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Re: Sleeping bag [Re: PDU]
    #5104891 - 12/25/05 02:10 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

north face is generally pretty overpriced.. they make good stuff though.
You want goose down if you want lightweight and compressible.. balancing coldweather sustainability with camping in the summer basically is you have two bags. One for summer and one for cold. Personally I have one bag which I use all the time, (+10F) .. but if I use it in spring and summer I sweat my ass off. So I just use a light blanket.

If you want a bag that will keep you warm in the cold, and I imagine it gets pretty damn cold in canada.. I'd definitely invest in a good down bag... what's the lowest temp you plan to be sleeping in? Only problem with down is: no insulation if it gets wet.. and it compresses under your weight so not as much insulation where it compresses.

synthetic fills are generally bulkier and heavier, but will still insulate if they get wet, and compression does not lessen the insulation. Personally I go for down because it's lighter and compresses well and plenty warm.. just don't fall asleep in any puddles.

so yeah take the lowest temp you expect to be sleeping in.. maybe 10.. or 0F.. and get that for your winter bag.. and in the spring and summer just use your current bag. generally a summer bag only needs to be rated to 40degrees


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Re: Sleeping bag [Re: Shroomism]
    #5104991 - 12/25/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

hey, thanks shroomism, i figured you'd reply. :smile:

How does one dry down if it gets wet; what about washing/machine drying?

It almost sounds like synthetic might be better at some points, as often i dont have an open space within cities to dry out for days..

The coldest temp id be in while stationary is 17F id think, but trains are friggin cold. (thats where i suffered with my little bag, even in the midst of summer.. wearing everything i had.)

Im not too concerned if i dont have adequte insulation at times, because a thick carpet like blanket and longunderware can pull me through times of wetness.

Ill see what i can buy... im not sure if outdoor stores or the internet would be best... i like being able to hold things before i buy them. Oh well, ive got months to figure it out.


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Re: Sleeping bag [Re: PDU]
    #5105459 - 12/25/05 07:17 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

well probably for your case, a synthetic bag would be best.. that way you wont have to worry if it gets wet. Maybe get one rated to 10-15F and you should be straight.

washing down you have to be extra careful.. you must use a special (very mild) detergent.. and you must use a front loading washer. Regular detergent would degrade the feathers, and thus the insulation qualities. You don't have to worry about this with synthetic fill bags.

Retail.. you're gonna pay more. Unless you know a good wholesaler or something. I recommend you check out www.campmor.com .. they have some good deals. You can even get north face stuff for way cheaper.. why pay more

On the plus side.. synthetic fill bags are a lot cheaper
You can get a nice 0-20F bag for around $50 http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=29027662&memberId=12500226

p.s - get a mummy bag


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Re: Sleeping bag [Re: Shroomism]
    #5105483 - 12/25/05 07:36 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I think Shroomism is right, you will probably be best served by a synthetic mummy bag. There is a small advantage of size/weight with down bags but in the big picture its minimal unless you are doing something extreme where you really need to keep weight and size under consideration (mountaineering is a good example). For most other purposes synthetic is not only cheaper but will perform better in the long run.

I use a synthetic bag rated to 0(zero)F. It has always kept me warm, even when I got wet one night at 11,000 feet. And I was able to dry it out the next day in just a few hours. It is too much bag for warmer weather camping but I use it anyway. I just zip it open and lay on top of it (and eliminate carrying a sleeping pad at the same time). And If I ever catch a chill at night I can slip my legs inside and before you know it I'm toasty.

Do some research and find the bag you like then shop on-line for it. Campmor is where I usually start. Since you are in no hurry I bet you can score a great bag before summertime at a great price. And if you are planning summer camping only I wouldn't get a bag rated lower then 15-20F. It'll save you some weight/size/money and keep you plenty warm in most conditions.


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Re: Sleeping bag [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #5105879 - 12/25/05 09:43 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

wow campmor looks like a great site.

Im looking at synthetic mummy bags.

Thanks for the help.


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Re: Sleeping bag [Re: PDU]
    #5111673 - 12/27/05 03:15 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

There are a ton of great discount sites out there for sleeping bags, just do a good search :smile:

North Face makes some good stuff, and although it is pricey, you get what you pay for when it comes to gear. We used the North Face "Cat's Meow" bag exclusively at the outdoor rec place I worked at. For your NA travels, I would devinatley go with synthetic unless you know for a fact that you will keep that bag dry. Like said above, down is touchy, and a wet down bag is not easily dried, plus, down has really picky washing instructions, and won't keep you warm once wet. You won't need down anyway, as most bags are rated to 20+, which is all you'll really need.

I'd suggest three things that will keep you warm no matter what. First of all, a ground pad is essential! Secondly, have a good pair of long underwear (top and bottoms and socks) plus a hat that you keep dry and clean, as in, don't wear during the day. If you sleep in what you sweat in, you won't stay as warm. Slip in to some clean, dry thermals and snuggle yourself in for a warm night. A warm hat is a must! Third, get yourself a good synthetic mummy bag. Some even come with flaps to go over your face if you're camping outside in the rain, and the tops cinch up to trap all your heat in.

Have those three things, and nothing can stop you. Happy travels!


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