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RogerRabbit
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White Gilled and Sporeless
#5104434 - 12/25/05 09:29 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stay around the hobby long enough and you'll run into a few of these. They're not albino because the top of the cap is the normal color for this species, not white. However they drop few or no spores. The interesting thing about this picture is the two white gilled mushrooms and the normal mushroom in the foreground are growing as a cluster of three. I've always thought clusters were of the same genetics because the fruits emerge from a common base, but I guess not. RR
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5104842 - 12/25/05 01:19 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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very nice !
id suggest u to take both clones of the normal and of the white gilled fruits and fruit them to see if either does carry on with the mutation.
it would be funny to see if either produces more of the white gilled, b/c i also thought up to now that clusters were holding the same genes.
let us know how ur experiments go on if u decide to give the cloning a shot. peace ohm
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#5105984 - 12/25/05 10:16 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Elfstone2
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: ]
#5106659 - 12/26/05 05:54 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I once managed to get some very old spores from Terence McKenna's Lux Natura Amazonian strain to reluctantly germinate, and ALL the carpophores were white gilled and sporeless.
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_OttO_
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5106824 - 12/26/05 07:56 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Let us know the results if you clone one of these...
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thenewguy05
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: _OttO_]
#5110632 - 12/27/05 09:11 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've come across a few of these excpet the growth parameter are prolly way differant. i found mine in quart jars of bird seed and rye. i'm not sure if this is common among fruiting inside the jars but most of them grew with white gills and no spores. the strain was mexican cubie. not the albino.
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5110697 - 12/27/05 09:36 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5125815 - 12/31/05 11:50 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have had a few of these as well. I once ran a contest and asked what was wrong with this mushroom 
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: _OttO_]
#5127658 - 12/31/05 09:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fact that the cluster itself has 2 sterile and 2 normal spored mushrooms would make the likely hood that a clone of this phenotype would express all sterile mushrooms quite unlikely.
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scatmanrav
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5130791 - 01/02/06 10:22 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Stay around the hobby long enough and you'll run into a few of these. They're not albino because the top of the cap is the normal color for this species, not white. However they drop few or no spores. The interesting thing about this picture is the two white gilled mushrooms and the normal mushroom in the foreground are growing as a cluster of three. I've always thought clusters were of the same genetics because the fruits emerge from a common base, but I guess not. RR
They may still have the same genetics because theyre from a cluster. Just as a brother and sister can have different eye and hair color..the genetics may be there, they just may be throwbacks in some of the fruits. I have noticed it happens more in jars, or low fresh air/light environments.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: scatmanrav]
#5131621 - 01/02/06 03:14 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea, and this strain does that a lot. At least a few from every flush. Sometimes the gills are totally white as above, and sometimes they're striped as below, with only part of the cap dropping spores. I'm actually starting to appreciate not having spores puked out all over everything. I guess there is something to be said for less mess, and of course the fewer spores, the 'less bad' the taste. RR
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_OttO_
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5133973 - 01/03/06 01:48 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I'm actually starting to appreciate not having spores puked out all over everything. RR
I can just picture a mushroom after a big night out.... 
I prefer sporeless shrooms for a much cleaner final product. Looks more apealing, IMO.
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Re: White Gilled and Sporeless [Re: _OttO_]
#5156921 - 01/08/06 11:50 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive had lots of these guys with a coast rican strain. Ive also noticed more with lower light levels but with trays, as I rarley grow in jars. genetic exspressions can be turned on/off by many enviromental factors, and ive noticed that mushrooms can actually fuse together and become one. two root bases but on cap.
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