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InvisibleIcelander
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I do not see spiritual evolution
    #5095131 - 12/22/05 06:40 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

The spiritual truths we know today are the same that were known by the ancients.

My guess is the same small numbers proportionally will always become spiritually awakened.

Spirituality is not going to "save" the human race.

Everything is exactly as it is supposed to be, always.

Have a happy holiday. :heart:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5095230 - 12/22/05 07:06 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Then why does one eat a mushroom?


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Droz]
    #5095235 - 12/22/05 07:07 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Could not the mushroom be at the core of the brain?


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Droz]
    #5095238 - 12/22/05 07:07 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

To be one of the lucky few.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5095325 - 12/22/05 07:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Have a happy holiday. :heart:

You too, brother.

Perhaps in the distant future, mankind as a whole will wake up to his divinity.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5095365 - 12/22/05 07:35 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:


something to keep the crazies entertained?  :tongue:


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5095377 - 12/22/05 07:36 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
My guess is the same small numbers proportionally will always become spiritually awakened.




The number or proportion means nothing without influence.
The power of one.


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5095426 - 12/22/05 07:43 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

The secrets are always out in the open, it takes a proper nervous system to accept them and a properly evolved brain to interpret them.

I have to agree everything must be how it is else it would be something else, right? :tongue:

Happy HO HO HOliday  :smirk: :heart:


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You are everything's way of feeling itself.

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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Sclorch]
    #5095431 - 12/22/05 07:44 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Something to keep the crazies entertained? Yeah right, if we didn't have spirits, which there are spirits. Then what would we be?

When we die, we become a spirit, ever play World of Warcraft.

When we die we must find our bodies to be reborn, or go to a church where they will revive you?

DUH!
It's easy to understand.


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Droz]
    #5095479 - 12/22/05 07:52 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I said we didn't have spirits? You're making some big assumptions, man.


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Cherk]
    #5095515 - 12/22/05 07:59 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

So you don't have a spirit? What happens when you die?


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Droz]
    #5095626 - 12/22/05 08:21 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing at all. What happens when you turn your computer off?


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Swami]
    #5095684 - 12/22/05 08:34 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

When I turn my computer off its spirit leaves it; when I turn it back on its spirit returns, of course! It's a belief just as unprovable as your own that 'nothing at all' happens when you die.


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Swami]
    #5095688 - 12/22/05 08:35 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Nothing at all. What happens when you turn your computer off?



It stops using energy. Then, when I turn it back on, it's got all my information still saved on it.


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Silversoul]
    #5095774 - 12/22/05 09:00 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Little Bela Fleck...

So Arjuna and Krishna, you know, they're hanging out on the battlefield.
Arjuna is like, tired of war, he's trying to get out of this battle.
So Krishna drops a little science on him, he says:
"You know, it's the way of spiritual growth.
A man must go forth from where he stands.
He cannot jump to the absolute, he must evolve toward it."
Krishna says: "At any given moment in time we are what we are.
Arjuna, we have to accept the consequences of being ourselves,
And only through this acceptence can we begin to evolve further.
We may select the battleground but we cannot avoid the battle."

So Krishna tells Arjuna: "It follows therefore that every action under certain circumstances
And for certain people may actually be a stepping stone to spiritual growth."

Arjuna is to do the best he knows
In order to pass beyond that best to better
How can we prescribe our neighbors to be perfect
When it is so hard to know our own heart
The pacifist must respect Arjuna
Arjuna must respect the pacifist.
Both are going toward the same goal
If they are really sincere
There's an underlying solidarity between them
Which can be expressed
Each one follows without compromise the path upon which he finds himself
For we can only help others to do their duty
By doing what we ourselves believe to be right
It is the one supremely social act.

So Kirshna's reply to Arjuna occupies the rest of the story
It deals not only with Arjuna's immediate personal problem
But the whole nature of action
The meaning of life
And the aims for which man must struggle here on earth
At the end of the conversation Arjuna has changed his mind
He's ready to fight, he's ready to go ahead on
It is the way of spiritual growth
A man must go forward from where he stands
He cannot jump to the absolute
And the battle begins...


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Icelander]
    #5095868 - 12/22/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Very true.


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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: SilentSeed]
    #5095954 - 12/22/05 09:54 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

yes :mushroom2:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: GulGen]
    #5096069 - 12/22/05 10:39 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

"When I turn my computer off its spirit leaves it; when I turn it back on its spirit returns"

I shut my computer off one night and returned to find it had reincarnated as a Falcon-Northwest Mach 5.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5096101 - 12/22/05 10:51 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

were you alive thousands of years ago? it seems to me that the collective consciousness is advancing. humans have moved into a more rational state of consciousness.


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: I do not see spiritual evolution [Re: Deviate]
    #5096118 - 12/22/05 10:55 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

As evidenced by the Bush Administration.


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