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Bkultra


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#5088484 - 12/21/05 04:10 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- We had two bags of grass... pellets of mescaline... five sheets of high-powered blotter acid... a salt shaker half-full of cocaine... a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers. Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer... - a pint of raw ether... - Shit ! two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip... but once you get locked into a serious drug collection... the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
Edited by Bkultra (12/22/05 05:21 AM)
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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: Bkultra]
#5088485 - 12/21/05 04:12 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Plug it!
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Asante
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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: Bkultra]
#5088828 - 12/21/05 08:09 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Extract it all and turn it to a hydrochloride. In this way its the most storage stable. This you can dissolve into your ayahuasca or turn into the freebase for vaporizing sessions.
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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: Asante]
#5088843 - 12/21/05 08:21 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'd save some for aya, since it's a difference experience and you might want to try it someday
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Koala Koolio
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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: twub]
#5089221 - 12/21/05 10:17 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have mimosa anyway, and not viridis, you might as well just extract it all like wiccan said, and use a measured dose orally with caapi if you decide to go that way. It won't be "true" ayahuasca anyway with mimosa.
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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5090498 - 12/21/05 03:58 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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elgr said: If you have mimosa anyway, and not viridis, you might as well just extract it all like wiccan said, and use a measured dose orally with caapi if you decide to go that way. It won't be "true" ayahuasca anyway with mimosa.
Why not as long as he has DMT and harmala alkaloids?
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Bkultra


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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: Bkultra]
#5091019 - 12/21/05 06:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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here is what i would need to make true ayahuasca....
http://deoxy.org/ayadef.htm
If you read that page you will see that DMT (N,N-DMT) is used and not 5-MeO-DMT. And MHRB will give me 5-MeO-DMT and not N,N-DMT...I think that is what he means
-------------------- We had two bags of grass... pellets of mescaline... five sheets of high-powered blotter acid... a salt shaker half-full of cocaine... a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers. Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer... - a pint of raw ether... - Shit ! two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip... but once you get locked into a serious drug collection... the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
Edited by Bkultra (12/21/05 06:35 PM)
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GulGen
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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: Bkultra]
#5091168 - 12/21/05 07:16 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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1) MHRB contains N,N-DMT, not 5-MeO-DMT.
2) Native users have traditionally insisted that the spirit of ayahuasca lies in the Banisteriopsis caapi vine (the MAOI), and that the DMT-containing and other plants are only added to supplement the caapi. Thus, even though syrian rue contains the necessary chemicals and from a pharmacological perspective acts in much the same way, there is some claim that "true" ayahuasca is only made with caapi.
I haven't tried caapi-based ayahuasca yet, so I can't compare, but I assure you that syrian rue-based stuff is a worthy experience in its own right, "true" or not.
edit: Oops, I got mixed up. Everything I said is true, but I just noticed that the debate on "trueness" was in regards to Psychotria viridis vs Mimosa hostilis. Viridis is more common in traditional usage as I understand it, but since the spirit of ayahuasca is in the caapi I think that would be enough to qualify it as "true". One could make a brew of pure caapi, nothing else, and I think it would be recognized as legitimate ayahuasca. Obviously I'm not a native user here so I can't say that definitively, so take that conclusion as you will.
Edited by GulGen (12/21/05 07:23 PM)
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Bkultra


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Re: mimosa hostilis 10 lbs. what to do with it all [Re: GulGen]
#5091212 - 12/21/05 07:30 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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GulGen said: 1) MHRB contains N,N-DMT, not 5-MeO-DMT.
Acacia bark 0.71% NN-DMT Acacia maidenii bark 0.36% NN-DMT Acacia simplicifolia bark 0.86% NN-DMT Mimosa hostilis root (bark) 0.57% NN-DMT Virola shoots & flowers 0.44% NN-DMT Desmanthus illinoensis root (bark) 0.34% NN-DMT Pilocarpus organensis 1.06% 5-MeO-DMT Phalaris tuberosa 0.10% NN-DMT .022% 5-MeO-DMT 0.005% 5-OH-DMT Phalaris arundinacea ('net gossip) 0.060% NN-DMT ?? 5-MeO-DMT Psychotria species (averaged, from Jonathan Ott) 0.200% NN-DMT
You are right I stand corrected.
-------------------- We had two bags of grass... pellets of mescaline... five sheets of high-powered blotter acid... a salt shaker half-full of cocaine... a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers. Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer... - a pint of raw ether... - Shit ! two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip... but once you get locked into a serious drug collection... the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
Edited by Bkultra (12/21/05 07:31 PM)
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