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 jag192
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 plasctic on perilite? 
#508850 - 01/03/02 11:21 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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willie grace is thinking of using perilite for humidity on his next project and was wondering if it is ok to set plastic containers with cased substrate in them directly on the perilte which is in the bottom of a much larger tuperware container?
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BeppoMarx
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 Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: jag192]
#508864 - 01/03/02 11:40 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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umm... why do you think you wouldnt be able to? thats how everyoe else does it. i dont really see any other way TO do it. except raising it up off the perlite but that would do nothing really. simple simple simple simple simple simple simple simple simple simple is better.
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jag192
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 Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: BeppoMarx]
#508880 - 01/03/02 11:59 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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i thought so but willie grace read in some darn tek how you need wire or mesh or something to hold the substrate above the perilte....willie grace is just way to cautious....thanx i'll tell willie grace to freakin chill out and simplify his mind!
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NorShroom
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 Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: jag192]
#508890 - 01/03/02 12:12 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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You want as much surface area as possible in contact with
the air so that the perlite will work in the best possible manner.
Covering it up by placing stuff on top of it is`nt optimal.
Making a nice platform from thick wire mesh to suspend the
cakes above the perlite is a good idea.
But then again you also have the issue of the direct contact
with the wet perlite making the cakes last longer as they
might absorb more water.
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Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: NorShroom]
#508942 - 01/03/02 01:23 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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The wire mesh is not necessary. You can place the tray directly on the perlite with no adverse affects. Provided you have a good temperature range and the moisture isn't being sucked out of the terrarium, it doesn't really matter if you cover some of the perlite with your tray.
However, if you decide to dry the fruit bodies with Calcium chloride, I would recommend using the wire mesh so that your harvest does not come in contact with the dessicant.
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Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: Azure]
#508957 - 01/03/02 01:33 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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So what all goes in the plastic tray inside the other big tray then?
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BeppoMarx
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Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: NorShroom]
#509057 - 01/03/02 03:04 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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dude!
perlite will keep humidity in your terrarium (provided it is good and sealed off) at least 95%. it does not matter if you cover some of it up. the surface area that is covered by your casing will be lost to the perlite but there will be that same amount of surface area on your casing itself which is just as moist as the perlite and will release humidity just the same. that is why perlite is NOT needed if you have multiple casings in 1 container; they will humidify it themselves. if your 1 casing is large enough in relation to the container you will not need perlite at all. and even if covering some of teh perlite DID decrease humidity which it wont; that wouldnt be so bad because casings like about 90% RH for pinning and 80% for fruit formation so bringing it down from 98 or 95 would be a good thing. if your casing is really small compared to the terrarium you might try only a small bowl of perlite in there to try and regulate RH rather than aiming at 100% RH with a full bottom of perlite. if you fill the whole bottom with 2 or more casings or even make the whole fruiting chamber 1 big casing then you wont need any perlite at all. maybe a light misting daily before primordia begin; which you should be doing anyway even with perlite. humidity wont add much moisture to the casing so youll have to spray either way for optimal results. just stop spraying when pins form.
and his cakes wont last any longer sitting on perlite because hes using a casing and not cakes. the casing will be seperated from perlite by the plastic container that it is in and wil never be in contact w/ the perlite.
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Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: BeppoMarx]
#509067 - 01/03/02 03:12 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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ummm what do you guys think about this method though... http://www.sporetradingpost.com/casing.htm
it seems that might work and not to much maintaince. hope this helps some.
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Re: plasctic on perilite? [Re: chadd]
#509097 - 01/03/02 03:45 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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holy shit look at that! its pretty much the same method as every other casing method. just about any casing tek you read will be pretty much the same as that except some call for potting soil, coco coir, or peat moss to be mixed with the vermiculite. might be an idea to get some hydrated lime to mix with the casing layer too; high PH is something any casing layer will acquire after a flush or 2 and any basic compound such as chalk (steal it from the classroom- yep it works) or limestone will keep the pH closer to neutral.
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Holy shit people; COMMON SENSE! we were all born with it where did it go?
maybe theres a tek out there to explain how to use it!
BUCKETS BRIGADE left hand man!!!
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