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nakors_junk_bag
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They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia.
#5069084 - 12/15/05 09:00 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holy shit, I don't know what to do. He is driving my stepmums crazy. My father flew out to Cali today with Carol(my step bros uncle). He fled town after leaving a string of nasty messages on thier phones. I shit you not, he thinks they are part of a grand government conspiracy to off him.
We first found out about his condition after he was arrested in California for harrassing a man he paid to make a documentary for him. The documentary was so spupposed to capture the attempts on his life from the cuurnet administration.
This shit is driving me crazy. Ihave always been a mind over matter typur person, but this shit here has me all kinds of twisted. I mean he is my brother and even though we have had our differences, we have also had our similarities. it also sheds some lite on some of the things we have disagreed with. I mean he has had a history of drug abuse. I mean real abuse. This shit is crazy and its got me twisted, what can I do??? My dad, my stepmom, its driving them crazy. She raised my fucking sisters after me mom died. What can we do.
Please if you are gonna offer some advice pleae don't offer some crazy off the wall shit.. I seek real help here
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5069193 - 12/15/05 09:33 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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If he's really off the wall like gonna hurt himself or others than I would say get him in an institution so he can atleast be treated. Most schizos can lead normal lives once they get the proper medications and psychaiatric therapy---its hard to advise anything at this point since I dont know the severity of his condition...sometimes schizophrania comes in waves/episodes where he will calm down eneough for you to communicate with him.
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: OrizonsHorizon]
#5069242 - 12/15/05 09:48 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well first of all I appreciate you responce. It seems educated. The thing is you can't have a man or woman commited in America once they have reached age.
Its pretty bad, he thinks his uncle and stepfathre were sent to cali to killhim. They went there to talk to him and try and help him. Institutionalizing shizos stopped happening ten years ago with the advent of drugs. the hard part is getting them to realize they hae a problem and to take the drugs. This is the empaase we are at right now. It could turn fatal. There hae been quite a few encounters between me and him, usually I hae to subdue him in order to restore peaceto our house. I am no longer in the ultimate picture. I won't be around whyen he amps on his mother or my father. I am scared.
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5070280 - 12/16/05 07:04 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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You need to look into state law. Different states have different regulations when it comes to things like this. For instance, in New York state we have "kendra's law". This law forces a patient to take his or her medication.
And they still institutionalize patients, however its usually not long-term. Next time he has an acute psychotic episode, they will likely commit him (although as you said, he'll be released once the episode is relieved). Depending on your financial resources, I'd shoot for an atypical antipsychotic.
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: badchad]
#5070577 - 12/16/05 08:59 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is this the first time he's really gone around the bend or was the incident with the documentary quite a while ago?
The reason I ask is because after a first episode he may only have negative symptoms and cognitive symptoms.
antipsychotics are terrible drugs which increased the suicide rates, can add to cognitive deficits, permanent movement disorders, drammatic weight gain. But for people who are a danger to themselves or others, what else to do?
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: confuzed]
#5070611 - 12/16/05 09:06 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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The newer atypicals have decreased those side effets tremendously however.
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: badchad]
#5070696 - 12/16/05 09:34 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is the first real dramatic episode. The thing with the film maker happened like a month and a half ago. I guess we should have seen it coming. He has always been alittle looney. He lost everything over the last ten years. His business went under, his wife and he got a divorce. He started smoking crack. I think that kinda elevated the situation. I mean its terrible to watch. His whole thought process is gone completely awry. He wont take the meds. He won't even acknowledge there is a disorder. Like I said he just fled from California cuzz he thought our folks were after him. We don't know where he is. My pa and uncle are on their way home now. My dad thinks when he runs out of money he will return to home. I hope that doesn't happen, my sisters are still young and quite afraid of him. Maybe if that does happen we can convince him to eat some pills. The side effects of most anti schizo drugs are horrible. They also have a tendency to stop taking them after they start getting better, their thinking is usually that since they are doing so well they don't need them any more.
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5071523 - 12/16/05 01:19 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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They only appear to be getting better externally because they've been robbed of they're pleasure and arousal neaurotransmitters. If you give them to someone with ADHD they'll make them "better" too. Very few people are going to accept being drained of all physical and emotional pleasure, aren't they?
Try to understand that, and look for alternatives such as exercise. Or, ask the Dr to add a stimulant to improve working memory and adherance. Later though, when he's calmed down.
he should come home in the next few days and hopefully after that it'll improve drammatically. Don't talk about his illness either or it'll just escalate.
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. *DELETED* [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5076096 - 12/17/05 06:35 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: sever]
#5076414 - 12/17/05 08:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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aint shit we can do, wait a year or two and see if my pa's predicitons come right.
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Re: They just diagnosed my step brothere with pnoyya schizphrenia. [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5080082 - 12/18/05 09:30 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, so much has been said. Here?s a few thoughts:
1. You might want to check out this website for some background info and support: About Schizophrenia.com http://www.schizophrenia.com/about.html Started in 1995, Schizophrenia.com is a leading web community dedicated to providing high quality information, support and education to the family members, caregivers and individuals who's lives have been impacted by schizophrenia.
2. As Badchad said, involuntary commitment is governed by state law and procedures vary from state to state. People can be hospitalized against their will if: a) They are a danger to themselves AND/OR b) They are a danger to others
3. Many people who are diagnosed with Schizophrenia significantly benefit from medications which help to control their delusions and/or hallucinations. The newer medications (atypical antipsychotic) have fewer side effects and are better tolerated. However, no medication is a magic solution and not all patients respond to medication.
4. There are a lot of community/county programs which provide free services for people with chronic mental illness such as those diagnosed with schizophrenia. When you have located your brother, you may want to assist him in contacting the department of mental health in his community.
Hope this was helpful
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