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Holydiver
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Mycelium recovery, with a surprise.
#5075912 - 12/17/05 05:21 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not quite sure where to put this, but for now I'd like to hear some worthwhile feedback on this strange find.
72 hours ago, it was harvest time. A couple handfuls of small mushrooms were discarded into a plastic shopping bag, and tossed under my desk. Runts of the flush that I didn't want to deal with. The plan was to throw the bag away, but I forgot.
Just found the bag, and expecting to be greeted by a blast of rotting mushrooms, I instead found a healthy clump of mushrooms growing. The mycelium grew from the stems, and somehow rejoined once-harvested mushrooms into a new mass.
Harvested, sat for 72 hours in a plastic bag, with no food source other than what little substrate was remaining on the base of the stems. Recovery, and the rejoining of all harvested mushrooms into one central mass, and continued growth. We all know how hardy cubensis can be, but this is new to me 
 
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Jaeger
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: Holydiver]
#5075923 - 12/17/05 05:24 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pretty crazy! Did a bunch of new ones come up too?
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mattymonkey
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: Holydiver]
#5075933 - 12/17/05 05:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is a common thing, happens with my trimmings in the basket everytime..
i believe in stamets new book, mycelium running, he focuses on sustainable ways of cultivating mushrooms.. this is essentially one idea that has gone by with wild harvesters for a long time.. you take the stems, the cuttings, and you cultivate those by putting them in new substrate.. since all it had to grow to was other myc it just kinda fused together quickly.. you can use this as spawn in less then sterile environments.. its the way nature propogates itself, besides spores of course..
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Holydiver
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: mattymonkey]
#5075966 - 12/17/05 05:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've done plenty of clones from fruitbody tissue, but I've never seen complete recovery of a harvested fruitbody(s). Especially with no nutritional base to draw from.
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mattymonkey
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: Holydiver]
#5075972 - 12/17/05 05:39 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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the whole fruitbody i must say is surprising, as ive only seen it from the bases of the stems.. i would imagine it to rot, and thats neat that it didnt.. ive seen pics in stamets books of oyster mushrooms eating themselves and fruiting more mushrooms.. yech..
the idea of using these butt ends as spawn to say cardboard is an interesting one though..
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: Holydiver] 1
#5076147 - 12/17/05 06:59 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your still going clump doesn't surprise me. I have left trays in a green house & forgot about then. Then found then growing hell bent for Texas, completely unattended. I have also set jars aside under a table & they fruited in vitro unattended.
Funniest story about how resilient Cubes can be, given halfway decent conditions.
Some years back when I lived in a more temperate climate, I used to dump spent bulk trays in the back 40, in a large debris pile (leaves, limbs, grass clippings, manure, etc)
Late August or early September of that year (still warm fairly humid days & cooler damp nights),and not having been out back for a 2 or 3 months, I took a load of spent trays out to dump.
Driving along the pasture fence line, I see a 2 cycle dirt bike wizz out from the area of that debris pile like the devil was after him.
The property is well posted, fenced and nothings out there but a few steers. It is however prime Liberty Cap county & the time of the year was getting right.
I get to the debris pile, park & get out. First thing I notice is something shiny in the grass, next to the pile. I walk over to see what it is & find a bright shiny Kodak 4 mega pixel digital camera.
Without thinking, I turn it on & hit the picture revue button.
LOL, pictures of Cubes, in all stages, one after the other.
I then check out the debris pile.
There were cubes in all stages, from pins, to black rotting ones all taken right where I was. A closer inspection revealed motorcycle Dude had been doing a lot HARVESTING right before I got there.
LOL, I bet he heard my truck coming, panicked & hit the road fast - either dropping or forgetting his camera.
Long story short, I thought it was unwise to dump anymore spent substrate trays right there & decided to empty them in ditch further down the fence line.
Before leaving, I got a plastic bag out of the truck, wrapped the camera up to waterproof it. Then hung the bag, with the camera in it, on a limb in plain site next to that pile, thinking the guy might come back for it.
I left a note in the bag. We shoot Trespassers, Rustlers & Hippy mushroom pickers in this part of the county.
A few days later I drove out there to see if the camera was still there. The bag is still hanging there, but the camera is gone. There was a note in the bag that said, "THANKS FOR LEAVING MY CAMERA".
Now, for the weird - even funnier part.
A few days later, on a different Mush/Cult board, I see the pictures that were in that camera POSTED & how he found Cubes while scouting for liberty caps.
Along with the story of how he almost got caught by a redneck rancher toting a gun. The thread went on about Cubes are not native to where they were found & some discussion of how they might have got there.
I never posted in that thread. Simply because it could have Idled me, as I owned the property. The poster went on to become an advanced cultivator, & I see him post here & there now & again, but not often.
By chance, if you happen to see this thread. PM me & we both can have a good laugh.
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Jaeger
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: agar]
#5076186 - 12/17/05 07:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ha, very cool!
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llamabox
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: Jaeger]
#5076527 - 12/17/05 09:28 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very funny and very cool of you.
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#5076754 - 12/17/05 10:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: ]
#5077275 - 12/18/05 02:27 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good thread, and good story from agar!
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: Herbus]
#5077635 - 12/18/05 09:51 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love a good story or two. especially on sunday morning 
heres one I posted at the old Foerst Floor forums sometime back.
I was more actively growing some years back. when trimming up the bottoms of fruits I would toss all the peat and mycelium attached to it into the toilet and flush.
some would sink some would float. there were two bathrooms in the place and this one was rarely used.
I went in there about a week or so later after the cleaning was finished, and.... when I open up the lid here was an actively fruiting * mushroom island* floating in the bowl .
I guess some of the floaties never went down on the last flush. I wish i had a camera for that one!
now that I think about it, everything went into a septic tank.
I wonder if the floaties in there also.....hmmmm?
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: TCatz]
#5077775 - 12/18/05 10:51 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey, maybe it's possible to grow mushrooms on a mushroom substrate!
fungi cannibalism...
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: WormholeSurfer]
#5078703 - 12/18/05 03:52 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great story agar. I took acouple aborts one time and stuck them in a wet paper towel and came back 2 days later to see what happened mycelium was growing all over the paper towel.
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Sillicybin
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Man, must be nice to have so many mushrooms that the runts get tossed.
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durban_poison
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: Holydiver]
#5083362 - 12/19/05 07:19 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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once i had left over spawn after innoculating many bags so i just dumped it in the kitchen sink. 3 days later i go to the sink and pull the sink stopper (had holes for draining) out and there where 3-4in long rhizo strings everywhere heading for the garbage disposal. perfect environment i guess humid and dark.
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: durban_poison]
#5083742 - 12/19/05 09:02 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn that's one of the best posted stories yet. Small world huh...good man not taking the camra there are a lot of scumbags around.
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Re: Mycelium recovery, with a surprise. [Re: WhiteBunny]
#5083762 - 12/19/05 09:09 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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That might be one of the coolest things i've ever seen. Thanks for sharing photos and all. I can't believe life, it's amazing.
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