Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinecubeladd
Stranger
Registered: 08/21/05
Posts: 962
Loc: Sunny ol' England
Last seen: 16 years, 6 months
2Cx Serotonin Depletion
    #5071957 - 12/16/05 03:11 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Can anyone tell me whether the 2C class of phethylamines causes Serotonin depletion?

I don't see how they can but I would like to know for sure so I can make an informed decision on whether I should try them.


--------------------
"The only thing I'm high on is Love for my Son and Daughters. Yes, a little LSD is all I need."
-Marge Simpson


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKoala Koolio
TTAGGGTTAGGGTTAGGGTTAGGG

Registered: 01/07/04
Posts: 7,752
Re: 2Cx Serotonin Depletion [Re: cubeladd]
    #5072025 - 12/16/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Well, first off, that would be generalizing a large amount of drugs. They all have very different effects.

Secondly, I'm sure serotonin usage differs from your standard, everyday life on these chemicals. After all, these are psychedelic drugs. Perhaps you'll feel rushes of serotonin, perhaps not. I don't think enough research at all has been done on even some of the most common chemicals, much less these unscheduled ones. But even with acid you'll feel waves of happiness, or other emotions.

But perhaps you're asking if it depletes it in the sense that MDMA is capable of. In that case, I think for many of them it is safe to say: no. Perhaps someone else has more information, but I haven't heard this raised as much of a concern before. Again, lots of research needs to be done on these chemicals before we can have a concrete answer.


--------------------
You're not like the others. You like the same things I do. Wax paper, boiled football leather... dog breath. We're not hitch-hiking anymore, we're riding!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedr0mni
My Own Messiah
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 2,921
Loc: USF Tampa, Fl
Last seen: 16 years, 8 months
Re: 2Cx Serotonin Depletion [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5072491 - 12/16/05 05:11 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

what he said


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineschmutzenS
King of the side-pins
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 15,417
Loc: Miss Kitty's Lounge
Last seen: 5 hours, 23 minutes
Re: 2Cx Serotonin Depletion [Re: cubeladd] * 1
    #5072809 - 12/16/05 06:26 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Phenethylamines in general are very hard on my body, on the other hand tryptamines seem to restore my body.

"Phenethylamines are like a hallway. Tryptamines are like a hallway with infinite doors, and each door leads to another hallway with infinite doors."

Dr. Shuglin

said something very similar to that^^^^


--------------------


"Blow up your TV, throw away your paper.  Go to the country, build you a home."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKoala Koolio
TTAGGGTTAGGGTTAGGGTTAGGG

Registered: 01/07/04
Posts: 7,752
Re: 2Cx Serotonin Depletion [Re: schmutzen]
    #5073122 - 12/16/05 08:10 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

A very nice quotation... though I'm not sure it answers the question. hehe...

It makes me wonder why Shulgin wrote his PEA book first. Perhaps because of his early work at Dow Chemical, and one of his earliest creations: DOM. Or perhaps it is a result of his fascination in cacti.


--------------------
You're not like the others. You like the same things I do. Wax paper, boiled football leather... dog breath. We're not hitch-hiking anymore, we're riding!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineschmutzenS
King of the side-pins
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 15,417
Loc: Miss Kitty's Lounge
Last seen: 5 hours, 23 minutes
Re: 2Cx Serotonin Depletion [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5073324 - 12/16/05 09:09 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

He just likes to save the best for last... :grin:


--------------------


"Blow up your TV, throw away your paper.  Go to the country, build you a home."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineOakbear
Trust me, I'm anurse!
Male

Registered: 05/08/05
Posts: 408
Loc: UK
Last seen: 13 years, 5 months
Re: 2Cx Serotonin Depletion [Re: schmutzen]
    #5074816 - 12/17/05 10:45 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The question of serotonin depletion i guess could be likened to other psychedlics for generalization.
Other than that would refer to specifc substances, of which of course little is known.

Serotonin does not exactly deplete with psychedelics, although they can (potentially) alter release as well as receptor sensitivity.


--------------------
UK Gathering? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6108350/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD

"I'm no fucking Buddhist, but this is enlightenment"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebadchad
Mad Scientist

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 13,373
Re: 2Cx Serotonin Depletion [Re: Oakbear]
    #5075041 - 12/17/05 11:56 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Most hallucinogens increase brain concentrations of serotonin and/or decrease its turnover. I don't think it's appropriate to label this mechanism as serotonin depletion however.


--------------------
...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Concerns of dopamine or serotonin depletion iLLeXXXX 287 9 07/25/16 10:02 PM
by iLLeXXXX
* P.Foenisecci's serotonin/5htp content Chill Hippo 216 1 12/12/11 02:04 PM
by fbi365
* does pot decrease serotonin levels? i95fl 4,166 12 05/27/09 09:23 AM
by suburbanned
* Shrooms, MDMA & Serotonin Receptors PsyCLown89 1,684 7 11/13/14 08:44 PM
by StygianKnight
* Do shrooms cause a flood of serotonin? murac 20,840 19 01/12/08 07:56 PM
by clover606
* mushrooms and serotonin StickyWater 1,679 7 07/21/05 09:47 AM
by HeavyToilet
* how fast does serotonin replenish? kushfarts 16,079 13 05/26/11 10:25 PM
by kushfarts
* Serotonin levels?
( 1 2 all )
HeavyToilet 5,447 22 05/19/04 11:39 PM
by Xlea321

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
1,826 topic views. 1 members, 28 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.019 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 12 queries.