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hermes3
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golden teacher--from whence?
#506164 - 12/31/01 07:15 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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o.k. A simple question for which I want no crap. Part of my pleasure in the "hobby" of 'shrooms is not only growin', takin', sharin' ...but also the genealogy of the fungus. I confess the proliferation of cubensis has somewhat slid past me. I like to trace the lines. TAS...simple. AMAZ...simple. The N.W. wood-lovers...simple. Where does the Goldern Teacher originate? Thanks.
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Suntzu
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: hermes3]
#506214 - 12/31/01 08:47 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn, I remember a nice post on the subject, but forgot the specifics. I believe the 'wild' progenitor was from the Americas [gulf coast?] but the GT is the result of a lot of generations of selection. I'm sure others know it off the top. It's a great cubie, always has given beautiful fruits of large size :)
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LuciferX
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: Suntzu]
#509359 - 01/03/02 07:30 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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i believe Chabha had the first GT i heard of.
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hermes3
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: LuciferX]
#510036 - 01/04/02 11:34 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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But where in the world were the original spores collected. I guess if one wants to share with the mushroom I feel we should preserve a history. Like heirloom seeds, hits of old 60's acid... If we are going to grow there should be a preservation of the history of the strains we are growing. A story to pass to our children when they inherit our favorite strains.
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Zen Peddler


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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: hermes3]
#511933 - 01/06/02 05:07 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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i thought that Pacific Exotica S. had the first GT and Ryche lists it under the american cubensis - i think that it is just been isolated for so long that its origin has been lost - very mysterious
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homage_etd
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: hermes3]
#511959 - 01/06/02 07:12 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ive heard talk of GTs originating somwhere in Louisiana. Cant quite remember where, but i advise backpedling through the cultivation string.
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hermes3
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: homage_etd]
#512216 - 01/06/02 03:18 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good, but we are the cultivation string. So I guess a less cavalier-- my car, my music, my mushroom is bigger than yours and a return to a sacredness. Unless we treasure and preserve we deserve the lowest common. There is a mythology of these mushrooms beyond a High Times etc. commercialization. Sorry I rant. Probably a better forum for that. I thought advanced cultivators might offer some collective geneolgy of our cultivars. I don't recall a GT from PES at least in the last ten years. Anyone else?
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Zen Peddler


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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: hermes3]
#512392 - 01/06/02 06:30 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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sorry - my mistake, Gts arent from PES
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Chabha
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#2086577 - 11/09/03 01:09 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I purchased it from PFE in Netherlands. When I got it it was a very weak species. So I worked on it for a year isolating a very strong strain out of it with lage fruits. The first I got it it would only produce little 1 to 3 inch in size. Then I sent it off to workman to get it out to the world. So this is a revised version of the GT
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KlingonFromUranus
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: Chabha]
#2086619 - 11/09/03 01:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a Q about the Golden Teacher strain. From what I've heard this strain produces (supposedly) dark red w/ remnants of universal veil and no nipple, however, my cat has been working with a strain given to him by a friendly well known grower labeled "Golden teacher." The strain he has has a very unique characteristics, namely a white fleshy stem (not very fibrous or gnarled) which bruised dark with a very symetrical hollow (perfectly circle if stem is cut into a cross section), and distinctly umbonate caps some of which remain umbonate until maturity. I always thought the GT didn't have a nipple, however some of these fruits have a very dstinctive nipple. The caps look very much like the onion domes you see atop the buildings of Kremlin Moscow-like St. Basil's Cathedral. Am I describing Golden Teachers?
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Pinhead
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If seen GTs from a dealer's syringe with nipples.Not all of them had it.All stems were gnarled and not at all as you described.Maybe enviromental factors would account for the differences. A buddy of mine from Amsterdamn grew some a while back.. might still have some pics around somewheres.
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#2087589 - 11/09/03 09:14 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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KlingonFromUranus
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Re: golden teacher--from whence? [Re: OldSpice]
#2097276 - 11/12/03 01:06 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Exactly pinhead, Some, but not all caps have nipples. And only on the first flush. Stems though are not gnarled. Very straight, fleshy, white, stain blue very easily. Not very hollow stem at all-very meaty. Not very fibrous either-like i said 'fleshy.' I'm almost positive they are GT. My friend is quite experienced and he said they were for sure GT's.
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